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| Laboryes |
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Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1959 |
I'm surprised no one has posted or is wanting to discuss this subject.
Quote: Step one: Create your own budget crisis by giving out tax cuts to the privileged.
Step two: “Solve” your crisis by attacking teachers and other public servants. That’s how Republicans do it these days, folks. Certainly, that’s the play being called by Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, whose attempts to push forward sweeping anti-union legislation in his state have become infamous in the past week. The single most important idea to keep in mind about the situation is that this is not about balancing budgets. It is a power grab. The Wisconsin Uprising _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn |
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| GRUMPY |
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Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 197 |
Isn't Local 8 running around flooding the stores with info. regarding this subject ? As bad as this is, maybe unions all over the country will finally get off their ass and make a stand. After all, this could actually affect their jobs for once.
Whew, I just had a dream. |
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| Laboryes |
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Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1959 |
GRUMPY wrote: Isn't Local 8 running around flooding the stores with info. regarding this subject ?
Good one Grump! _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn |
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| John Briley |
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Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 616 |
Clearly, every Union Member should be educating themselves and following this very serious assault on Collective Bargaining Rights for the Public Employees in Wisconsin.
Wisconsin Governor Seizes Chance to Take on Unions February 20, 2011 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=133913075 Quote: Walker insists that his push to force concessions from public employees by doubling their health insurance contributions and requiring them to pay half their pension costs is all about balancing the budget and not busting unions. But the bill also would strip them of most collective bargaining rights.
Do not think for a moment, that "if" this tactic is successful in Wisconsin, that other States will not attempt to accomplish the samething! In my opinion, Gov. Walker and others are really trying to accomplish the following in Wisconsin and throughout the U.S. Quote: But the bill also would strip them of most collective bargaining rights.
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| John Briley |
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Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 616 |
BTW.... here is some additional information for your review.
http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/we_support_wisconsin/?r_by=16906-2557649-VwehLSx&rc=mailto1 Quote: Wisconsin state Senator Chris Larson, who is one of the senators in hiding, laid out the stakes in an open letter and asked for our support:
The ability to organize and get fair treatment are qualities that built our country... If this bill moves forward in Wisconsin, rights in all America we have grown to take for granted will no longer be so reliable... If this passes here, it will pass in your state... It is an unprecedented attack on workers, their communities and our tradition of working with labor to move our state forward... I am seeking your support for the fight ahead of us. |
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| SharynS |
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Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 2883 Location: the 'puter |
GRITtv with Laura Flanders
(GritTv) On the road to Wisconsin DemocracyNow Wisconsin Power Play ed= There's this too Progressives United _________________ Free speech is the whole thing, the whole ball game. Free speech is life itself. - Salman Rushdie |
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| rogead |
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Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 412 |
We had a dozen Wobblies go to Madison on Friday and Saturday. They met up with others from Chicago, Milwaukee, and Omaha. Others went to a demonstration in Hudson, which is in Wisconsin, but part of the Mpls-St Paul metro area.
The report back from Madison was amazing: **a huge number of college and high school students have joined in the protest. **Madison and Dane County police are sympathetic and are also talking about striking. Governor Walker has been using state troopers and DNR cops for crowd control. **There is increasing support for a general strike. We started with 4,000 flyers calling for a general strike and ran out, with people requesting additional copies. On the down side; what began as a largely rank-and-file movement, has seen increasing participation from bureaucratic trade unionists.The AFL-CIO is attempting to exert control over the participants and is speaking of brokering a "compromise". Missouri has become so emboldened that they are attempting to eliminate child labor laws. Minnesota Republicans are trying to turn us into a "right to work" state. Illinois has enacted massive tax increases that disproportionately affect the working class. Where the hell is the US president, who received six hundred million dollars of union funds for his campaign? Back to the good stuff: A similar protest is brewing in Columbus given that Ohio governor, John Kasich is also a teabagger who has committed himself to union busting. Indiana and Michigan seem poised for some type of protest as well. A French-style general strike may be a long shot, but previously-complacent Americans seem to be amazed, and even inspired, at the boldness of common people across the globe. They are increasingly realizing the need to take direct action. Revolution is good!! |
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| SharynS |
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Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 2883 Location: the 'puter |
Nice to hear from you rogead.
Too important to miss (read breath of fresh air) would be the Rude Pundit _________________ Free speech is the whole thing, the whole ball game. Free speech is life itself. - Salman Rushdie |
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| unionnow |
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Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 658 Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail |
Wisconsin was first in the nation to pass collective bargaining rights for state workers. Being a long time union supporter and a taxpayer I can tell you I am sick of seeing public sector workers retire at 40 with 100% benefits and pension.
Why did a state in the democrat column switch over? What are the state residents feeling? It’s safe to say that all their jobs have been moved overseas and the good paying jobs are all but gone. Most of the protesters are state workers, not that many are average citizens. The reset button has been punched in the private sector and the reset button will be punched in the public sector. More states will follow and those that don’t will go bankrupt. The states in the worst shape financially are the big union states. The ones that managed to restrict the SEIU and AFSME are better off financially. We live in a new era in more ways than one. The republicans are much better organized and understand what they need to do. The democrats have sold out the unions at every turn. I have more questions than answers and I don’t trust what I hear from the union or the Republicans. _________________ “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1-2) |
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| rogead |
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Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 412 |
unionnow wrote: Wisconsin was first in the nation to pass collective bargaining rights for state workers. Being a long time union supporter and a taxpayer I can tell you I am sick of seeing public sector workers retire at 40 with 100% benefits and pension.
Why did a state in the democrat column switch over? What are the state residents feeling? It’s safe to say that all their jobs have been moved overseas and the good paying jobs are all but gone. Most of the protesters are state workers, not that many are average citizens. The reset button has been punched in the private sector and the reset button will be punched in the public sector. More states will follow and those that don’t will go bankrupt. The states in the worst shape financially are the big union states. The ones that managed to restrict the SEIU and AFSME are better off financially. We live in a new era in more ways than one. The republicans are much better organized and understand what they need to do. The democrats have sold out the unions at every turn. I have more questions than answers and I don’t trust what I hear from the union or the Republicans. These workers have already made concessions in regards to benefits. They have accepted sixteen unpaid furlough days a year, and they have expressed a willingness to make further concessions. This isn't good enough for the teabaggers. Gov.Walker has refused to negotiate in any way on this issue. As a county commissioner in Milwaukee, he expressed his opposition to the rights of any worker to organize. This is not about benefits. It's about destroying worker's rights to engage in collective bargaining. In spite of what the mainstream media and the Koch Brothers (the primary recipients of Walker's teabagging services) have been saying, public workers have been a minority of those protesting. I can assure you that no one has more disdain for the concept of trade unionism than does the IWW, but we abide by the premise that AN INJURY TO ONE IS AN INJURY TO ALL. We are there with thousands of others in an attempt to uphold the dignity and relevence of the working class. This fight is not about benefits. It is about the right of workers to organize within the workplace. The consequences have nothing to do with state budgets, and everything to do with a state/corporate tyranny over the working class. Wisconsin was on track for a 120 million dollar surplus for the fiscal year of 2011. Then Walker pushed through a series of business tax breaks which benefited his corporate masters. Now he wants to blame the working class for the effects of his own corruption. Even the Madison Chamber of Commerce has denounced Walker's approach. There are thirteen states with non-collective bargaining laws. Eight of those states have budget deficits exceeding Wisconsin's. Nevada, with over a 45% budget deficit, is the worst in the country. It is a non-collective bargaining state. Texas and Florida are perhaps the two most notoriously anti-worker states in the nation. Florida is running a deficit of 17%, and Texas is over 20%. I share your mistrust of both political parties, and of the trade unions. However, I'm not prepared to buy into the capitalist strategy of dividing the working class by appealing to the "They have more than I do" mentality. Corporate robber baron, Jay Gould once said: “I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half” I don't want any of us to be a part of that equation. |
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| SharynS |
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Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 2883 Location: the 'puter |
Quote: This fight is not about benefits. It is about the right of workers to organize within the workplace. The consequences have nothing to do with state budgets, and everything to do with a state/corporate tyranny over the working class. For lack of a better word, bravo to that and to your entire post rogead bravo! _________________ Free speech is the whole thing, the whole ball game. Free speech is life itself. - Salman Rushdie |
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| hawk |
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Joined: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 267 |
From what I understand the unions are willing to gut the workers' money and benefits as long as they can keep mandatory dues collection.
They say it is to maintain union membership and protection but it s the dues money they want. I also understand that Jessie Jackson heard that there were TV cameras up in Wisconsin so he had jump to the front of the parade. That old joke is still playing his old games. If the common workers and public control the battle, they have a chance. If the unions and the Democrats take over the leadership, it will be doomed. |
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| rogead |
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Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 412 |
Quote: From what I understand the unions are willing to gut the workers' money and benefits as long as they can keep mandatory dues collection.
This is exactly the direction the trade union bureaucracy is trying to steer the argument. That's why it's so important to keep control in the hands of rank-and-file workers. |
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| John Briley |
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Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 616 |
Research Summary: Wisconsin Public Sector Workers are Under Compensated Compared to their Private Sector Counterparts
Interesting Read: http://www.cows.org/pdf/bp-WIpublicsectorcompensation.pdf Quote: Shortfalls in State & Local Pensions have attracted considerable attention in recent months, with critics significantly inflating the size of pension obligations, and many arguing that public-sector pensions need to be scaled back today to avoid fiscal calamity down the road. While there are a handful of states that need to ramp up their contributions to state employee pension funds, Wisconsin's retirement system is on very solid ground with an acturial funding ratio (a ratio of the acturial assets as compaerd to liabilites)of nearly 100%. |
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| Laboryes |
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Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1959 |
Quote: The workers in Wisconsin are not only facing their governor; a more insidious danger lurks. They are faced with two opportunistic opponents; he Labor leadership whose demands are limited to ensuring that they have the legal right to negotiate with employers so they can sit down and offer concessions, and the Democrats who, due to the pressure from the workers and youth, want to perpetuate the diminishing myth that they are the party for the working class. This is what Union tops and their Democratic allies have announced in order to placate employers "Democrats and union leaders said their concerns were focused on losing decades-old bargaining rights, not the financial concessions." Not financial concessions". (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel) These are carefully chosen words.
Union leaders want to limit the goals as Wisconsin protests grow Quote: Sarah Palin was a no-show, pleading the need to stand by her man in the Wassilla to Nome, Alaska dog sled race. Pro-union protesters carried signs suggesting that Walker follow Palin’s example and quit as governor; another one read, “Sarah Palin Shot My Dog.” Tea Party supporters chanted feebly “trim the fat,” to which the labor crowd responded, “Don’t drink the tea” (referring to the mass suicide in Jonestown by drinking Kool-Aid)
To Win, Prepare to Strike Wisconsin And by all means let's not forget this awesome seen _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn |
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