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ross53	Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:39 am
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1434 Location: california	LT, If you are right, "ABOUT THE MEDICAL PROBLEM" (that is news to us) why did Norm agreed to the conditions that I indicate earlier. If Norm wasen't force out, why the agreement and why in 2004 Mickey gave Norm neraly $20,000.00.LM2 REPORT. Norm did not stay as a consultant or in any other official or none officials position with the Local 135. After the election of 2003. Lt, just like I said to Pearson, the agreement is a legal document and I know in fact of the existance of it. At this time I cannot spell out how I know but trust me it is the truth. Now if I want to use the word force out or ???? that remains to be determined. "union officails earn their paychecks by betraying union members"Ross53.
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loonietunes	Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:48 pm
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 1210	[quote If you are right, "ABOUT THE MEDICAL PROBLEM" (that is news to us) why did Norm agreed to the conditions that I indicate earlier. quote] Ross-- I only know what we were told about Norm's serious health issues-- I 've got calls into some people to see if I can get more information. LT
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Pearson	Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:32 pm
Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1416 Location: Sun City AZ	Your post about this agreement raises lots of questions Ross. There was an election as i recall, so the rest of this deal had to be put together after the fact. The old Slaveway website had several threads about the 135 election. Too bad it's gone because as i remember there was some shit about Norm's son's and where they lived or something like that. I just wonder if Mickey had dirt on Norm and leveraged that into this agreement you have knowledge of. It is interesting because both the International constitution and the by-laws give the president the authority to hire and pay staff as his discretion. Virtually all locals mandate the e-board to a approve with subsequent reading of the board minutes at membership meetings. It would be worth your while to see if Norm was offered an amount of money to go quietly into the night. Seems odd to agree to sign off on running or supporting unless there was a financial reason to do so. If there was there should be record of it in the minutes. If not, it would be worth your while to track down what happened and how it came together. I do believe Norm was sick for a while; does anyone know how and what he is doing know? _________________ If we don't do it, who will?
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ross53	Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:09 pm
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1434 Location: california	LT, Pearson, The deal was after the election, not before you are correct. About Norm Son's during the campaign for president, part of "SLICK MICKEY " slogan was "vote for me because Norm is taking Money from the union to pay for is Son's housing. The other part of "SLICK MICKEY " slogan was, vote for me and I will open the books to show you how Norm did it" Well up until now and numerous written request, Local 135 Region 8 office and the International have yet to open the books. At one point in time "SLICK MICKEY" had agreed to open the books but, when I request that Norm shall be present and that I was to bring a C.P.A. Mickey ran for cover and never responded and Norm never showed his face or reply to my invitation. Slick MICKEY will not show the minutes of the E.B.M or of the Regular Membership meeting. You see why, the agreement is out of line with any logical way of thinking, unless "Slick Mickey" had and still has "DIRT" on Norm.( the story about Norm son's is more complexed than this, but for now lets stay calm and focus on the housing portion) Norm was in the hospital for nearly one months in April of 2006. I ear from reliable sources that Norm is doing fine, but I have not seen or spoken to Norm personally, and if something was wrong believe you me I would have known. LT, Pearson: "SLICK MICKEY" is afraid of me, why do you think that a union official came to my store to threaten me in the hope that I put my tail between my legs and run for cover. Well I'm not going to go away. I need answers and also the menbers has the right to know the TRUTH. "union officials earn their paychecks by betraying the union members".Ross53
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Pearson	Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:17 pm
Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1416 Location: Sun City AZ	Quote: Slick MICKEY will not show the minutes of the E.B.M or of the Regular Membership meeting. Let's get this straight right now. Mickey doesn't own those minutes, they belong to the union, hence they belong to the members. You can't take them out of the building but you have right to see both the minutes and the financials. Herein lies one of the biggest problems in the UFCW (and virtually every other biz union out there). The leadership thinks and acts like its theirs. Lemme shout it: ITS NOT! The sooner members come to grips with that the sooner you'll begin to break down this inept system of representation. From what you have posted ross, it sounds like there was a deal struck for Norm to walk away with incentives and Mickey to come to power quickly and quietly. The thing is, that isn't their call to make. The membership has a right to know and the leadership has a responsibility to show them. Trading the members money (union treasurery) for your own self-serving interests isn't something they can do...at least without the members approval. I don't mean to be unkind but i would quit with all the tough guy talk and just keep pushing for information. The other thing is you need to develope a reason for members to vote for you other than Mickey is bad. No offense, but having gone through this, the best advice i can give is to be proactive and real...that gives you a leg up on all the spin-doctored bullshit you see from the UFCW. Are Norm's sons still with the local? _________________ If we don't do it, who will?
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ross53	Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:13 pm
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1434 Location: california	Pearson, QUOTE: Are Norm sons still with the local? Very interesting question. A few minutues ago I got a phone call from someone who follows my posting on www.rossandtheunionboss.com and aslo on www.uncharted.ca. If Norm Sons at one point in time did work for the Local it was before the year 2001 my "someone" said that in the LM2 reports from 2001 until 2005 don't show any one with the Last name Mr. Bell beside Norm.(may be they worked for the International)? My letter to "SLICK MICKEY" June 14, 2006 UFCW.LOCAL 135 Mr. Mickey Kasparian. President. Certified Mail 7005-1820-0006-2596-4180 Dear Mr. Kasparian: As I explore my opitions in running for office later this year, I would like to request a page in the Workers, once I have been nominated, in order to inform the members of another choice in the up coming elections. Since this is within my rights, as noted in the NLRB election by-law, I assume you will have no problem in arranging that for me. I would aslo like to invite you to a debate at a time and place of our mutual choosing with agreed upon written questions with at least 10 days to study and prepare. This would give the members a chance to compare and dicede wich of us has the best vision for the future of UFCW Local 135. I would hope we could invite the media on nomination day and to the debate if they have an interest in covering it. I would also like to access the member's mailing list in case I decide to do a mailer. All of these requests are reasonable and I would appreciate a timely response so that I may continue to prepare my campaign. Sincerely your, Ross Bagnasco. "SLICK MICKEY" Answer six days later, one of the union official came to my work whit a "THREAT" give it up or your life will be "OPEN BOOK". "UNION OFFICIALS EARN THEIR PAYCHECKS BY BETRAYING THE UNION MEMBERS".Ross53
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Laboryes	Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:42 pm
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1959	Quote: "SLICK MICKEY" Answer six days later, one of the union official came to my work whit a "THREAT" give it up or your life will be "OPEN BOOK". Ross, After seeing what happened to Slaydon in the 588 campaign and seeing that Loveall & Slick Mickey have all of a sudden become best of butt buddies I would say that you may end up being set up at your job for some "bogus charges" like Slaydon in the near future! The Loveall's did this shit with Jack Nordby back in the 90's and then Doug Slaydon last year! Apparently this is the only way the UFCW know how to keep their positions in office! While all this is going on Joe Hansen and the international turn their heads and look the other way! It makes you fucking sick don't it? My question is why hasn't some reporter grabbed this story and ran with it? Plenty to write about here! Ross keep doing what you are doing post anything and everything that has to with you and local 135 and the UFCW international. By the way are you bringing a camera and a tape recorder with you to work yet? If not START! Keep up the pressure Ross your doing a awesome job! _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn
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ross53	Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:13 pm
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1434 Location: california	Laboryes, I have a differnt way of doing things that is partially the reason why the media as not pick up the story "yet" Believe you that is in the workes. At my work place we have nearly 50 camera taping every step that we take(that is why I don't have my cameras) If the union officials care to show up againg about the same subject they are in for a major surprise. I'm currently with the help of a friend working on a leaflets for the Shop Stewards Seminar. I will posted on July 27. Joe Hansen will be in San Diego tomorrow and the next day. I know he will not have the time to talk to me. a very sad day for the UFCW UNION. "union officials earn their paychecks by betraying union members" Ross53
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Laboryes	Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:24 pm
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1959	Quote: Joe Hansen will be in San Diego tomorrow and the next day. I know he will not have the time to talk to me. a very sad day for the UFCW UNION. Hey Ross here is a idea that you may like! Why not do a picket on you union hall when Hansen is in town? It's real easy see.... http://groceryworkers.org/Members/RankNfile/DSC00865.JPG/view?searchterm=retirees This would be a great way to get your message across Ross! Think about it! _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn
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ross53	Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:50 pm
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1434 Location: california	Laboryes, You idea is a great one but not for this case. "SORRY" If,I take your idea the Police will arrest us for "trespassing" The Shop Stewards Seminar will take place at a location that "IT IS NOT UNION PROPERTY" Therefore Mr. Kasparian will have the upper hand. Be smarter and stay withn the law and in the long run you will prevail. "union officials earn their paychecks by betraying union members"Ross53
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Plutodog	Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:21 pm
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 300 Location: Oregon	Getting Arrested is Not All Bad... Assuming you got bail money, it is an excellent way to also get attention and correctly handled to embarass and shame the folks what had you arrested. 'Course that's a decision you'll have to make in consideration of your whole strategy... _________________ "I'm not a humanitarian,I'm a hell-raiser" -- Mother Jones
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Laboryes	Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:35 pm
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1959	Quote: If,I take your idea the Police will arrest us for "trespassing" Not if you stay on public sidewalks! It's also your right to be able to protest. See Here: http://www.nlg-la.org/free_speech_rights.pdf No pressure Ross I was just making a suggestion but as long as we stay in that "structured box" that keeps us all in line nothing will change! Creativity and public humiliation will be our best weapons when fighting these corrupt bastards! Like Wanda and BP say "we need to keep pushing the envelope" and "you need to step right out of the legal framework that governs labour-management relations" _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn
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ross53	Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:29 am
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1434 Location: california	Show time Nomination for officers of UFCW Local 135 will be conducted on August 218, 2006 at 8:00 Am and 6:00Pm at UFCW Local 135 main office at 2001 Camino Del Rio South, San Diego, CA Ciao, Ross53 "union official earn theiir paychecks by betraying union members".Ross 53
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ross53	Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:21 am
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1434 Location: california	Sorry everyone The Nominations at Local 135 will be on August 18, 2006. NOT on August "218" like I incorretly reported on my prior posting. be cool its show time in San Diego, CA WE WIL MAKE HISTORY, BELIEVE YOU ME.THE TRUTH WILL BE KNOWN. "UNION OFFICIALS EARN THEIR PAYCHECKS BY BETRAYING UNION MEMBERS".Ross53
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ross53	Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:59 pm
Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 1434 Location: california	November 8, 2004 To: Joseph Hansen U.F.C.W. International Re: Local 135 San Diego California Dear President Hansen, U.F.C.W. Local 135's Mickey Kasperian and his administration have implemented, for lack of a better term, a modern day dictatorship. Mr. Kasperian has mandated, to all Local 135 members, that dues will be paid for the duration of the time union members were striking. Some of us members have challenged the Local 135 to provide written evidence, within the union bylaws, stating the payment of such dues are in fact lawful and justified. The response to us was Article 23(E) 3... that was an unacceptable answer. After contacting Rosalyn Moore, the Local 135's Secretary Treasurer, we were referred to your office. The Local 135 has indicated that they have no choice but to comply with the above mentioned mandate. Can your office provide myself, as well as the other members, with any documentation that supports Local 135's actions? Another matter, which requires some attention, is the matter of Mr. Kasperian's integrity. While running for office, Mr. Kasperian's main point was "don't re-elect Norm Bell, because he is taking money from the union and using it for personal use. Vote for me and I will put a stop to it." One year later, we the members, refuse to believe Mr. Kasperian is keeping his promise. Since Local 135 refuses to open up the "books" to it's members, I humbly, with the support of my fellow union members, request that the U.F.C.W. International look into the financial state of our Local 135. We are not in any way shape or form implying that money is missing from the Local 135. But one can't help wonder, especially the way Mr. Kasperian has conducted business since his ascension to power. Awaiting your reply, Ross Bagnasco, and groups of concerned members. "union officials earn their paychecks by betraying union members".Ross53 "The above letter is a copy of my original letter to Joseph T. Hansen"
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