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workerpower
Post Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:14 pm

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[url]http://socialistworker.org/2007-2/644/644_10_Stern.shtml[/url]

Thought some may find this interesting. It is a critique of Sterns ideas from a SEIU member.
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Pearson
Post Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:20 pm

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Maybe this will help:http://socialistworker.org/2007-2/644/644_10_Stern.shtml

The article is the blueprint on which the ufcw is staking its future. Virtually every deal done this year has been one of "mutual benefit." Add in the craziness of massive locals merging for the benefit of the organization and what you see is Stern's vision for a better business union model.

Idiocy!!!!!!!

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workerpower
Post Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:41 pm

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Thanks for fixing that link. Still haven't figured these tags out.

I especially found this interesting:

"[Stern] does give a flowery description of how the deal with Kaiser was an 'amazing experience.'He continued 'As hard as I tried, I could not distinguisg the union representatives from the management representatives.'"

We've all had that experience, not being able to tell the difference, but I always thought that was a BAD thing.

I am amazed by Stern's ability to control perceptions of him and SEIU. His program for labor is fairly easily recognisable to most union folks as classic collaboration and business unionism, however, Stern and other leaders in SEIU are able to keep many progressive activist in the country believing that they are a super-progressive union as compared to the others.

The author hits the nail right on the head in the last paragraph:

"The unions we need won't be built on a cult of personality, but by members organizing to win the kinds of contracts they want through their own struggle, and learning from those expreriences."
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Pearson
Post Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:39 pm

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Dead on target workerpower; Stern's future for workers is glum at best. I suspect he sees it as the only alternative. By forming partnerships the boys will let us hang around as long as we don't get out of line.

The article sums up why it is a system built on failure. One only has to look at the deals cut with Beverly Enterprises to see who the real winners were. Labor goes and works its ass off for better funding at the legislature and then the partners divvy up the proceeds. So, why do the folks at the bottom get the crumbs?

This entire process has been pushed along near on six or seven years now. If the truth were to be told, i would imagine any number of discussions were held behind closed doors on the merits of this flawed system. My sense is, even before the split, there were those at the AFL-CIO who told Andy this was silliness.

The real shame of it all is this new hybrid business union model will do nothing but allow the hogs to hang around and draw their massive salaries and huge pensions. Pretending to make members activists while letting them do nothing but be window dressing as the shills do their deals is how it will work.

Long term, one day the employers will wake up and they will kick their "partners" to the curb. The only thing that has ever worked in this battle for workers rights has been when workers are involved and committed. Andy seems to think by growing the organizations through trade offs he will build this monster movement.

Failed logic; and certainly if one looks at it from a historical perspective, Andy's best hope for a big movement is a plate of refried beans, a big bottle of prune juice and a gushing hot water enema.

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Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:37 am

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andy (fos) stern is setting up for hibernation. andy fos stern will beg borrow or steal nuts from wherever he can to store them in his feathered nest. Because when the snow flies - and it will - and there are no more nuts to gather - andy fos stern's biggest fear is that everyone will point and stare and say there goes nut-less andy fos stern. So andy fos stern is simply saving his nuts.

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