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r69
Post Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:55 pm

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As for you, you're an unexpected headache.


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Elvis
Post Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:04 am

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r69 wrote:
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As for you, you're an unexpected headache.


WHAT?


Laughing Calm down! It's a compliment!

As a posting member of uncharted.ca, you get a built in readership of sleazeball guys who control the Keele/Wilson corner. They love reading our stuff, and then reaching for the pepto-bismol. Ulcers and headache inducement makes the writing fun.

Evil or Very Mad

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r69
Post Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:13 am

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Well, I guess this is one time I can say I'm not disheartened at being called a headache!

I wrote a post today but have no idea where it went to and am now to tired to re-write it.

Anyways, one of the main points I made today was that I don't feel like I am in much of a position to complain. I went to the condo tonight to AGAIN find that the sliding doors are being left open for easy access to some scatterbrained kids, sinister so and so's or just smart little animals that want to get warm. Either way, that's my heating going out the door and I ask, really, what can I do about it???

I mean, the men are in the work stages and they have the key to my space. This is not the time for me to be upsetting anyone with a complaint. I mean, yeah, I complained about having concrete for floors last week but that was pretty understandable considering the season and now it's done so I assume they'd like me to shut up now.

I won't be calling the builder about the missing quarter rounds, I won't be calling the builder about the gashes in the walls that remain since the PDI or the poorly aligned cupboards. I won't be taking out an add in the paper to tell buyers to BEWARE ANYTHING NORSTAR BUILDS whether it be under the name INDEPENDENCE WAY or HARMONY VILLAGE or whatever they come up with next. I mean really, what would any of that solve? Would it get my place cleaned up any faster? Would it get the men in there to stop SCRATCHING the ONE DAMN UPGRADE I actually really prayed they'd get right after swindling me out of the other choices? I don't get that. Can someone explain the point of laying down flooring and NOT COVERING IT so that it doesn't get damaged prior to handing the finished product over to the buyer???

I'm really scratching my head over a lot of this stuff but I'll tell you something. I really do have to thank Norstar or Willowfield Homes or whatever we're calling it for the day. I have to thank them for teaching me a lesson. I have to thank them for teaching me about the crap you have to put up with if you can't afford better. I have to thank them for teaching me that had I not ran up and down my twenties, shopping at every mall and buying purses and every pair of shoes that met my fancy and treating my friends to this that and the rest,.... I wouldn't be in this position. I thank them for helping me to recognize that I must take responsibility for my part in signing on with them to begin with. There was no gun to anyone's head. There were just a couple of guys, Bill and Lorenzo fast talking people writing numbers that "looked" good and so of course you couldn't lose. (Mental note, don't talk to men who talk to fast!)

Crap sakes! I almost got in a car accident today leaving the crazy property as I attempted a U turn to go back the other way on Keele. Whose bright idea was that median? I mean really, I think it's more dangerous to have it there because I can't think of anyone who WANTS to come out of that gas station, go up Keele, turn right on Wilson, only to have to double back and make a SAFE AND LEGAL left back on to Keele. I mean GIVE ME A BREAK! Failing that, are we really supposed to go up Keele, cross over Wilson and then turn into Dominion or the library and then make a left out of those to get back on Keele!???!!! That's nuts!!!!!!! The Wilson idea is gonna be a traffic nightmare. Holy crapola!!!! I wish I could be in court on Wednesday.

The other day when I had stayed downtown so long I missed my "getting the KEY time", I came up Avenue to Wilson, drove up towards Keele and nearly had cardiac arrest at the long string of cars waiting to make a left at that crazy corner.

There has to be another light somewhere. They can't put it in front of the the CDN Tire gas bar because it's already smack dab bewtween two pretty close lights. They can't put it before the Keele light at Wilson because technically, there's no real STREET there! Ever feel like just having a good cry!?! Holy frustration. The people that live in that area must be freaking out! Where's a good urban planner when you need one? Although, I would suspect that a good urban planner never would have green lighted this project to begin with.

With a road going through where there is currently a big black fence, does that mean that the HoJos people would be required to "cross the little road" to get to their parking structure??? I don't get it. Did that hotel ever have underground parking? Was it always detached and if so, who the heck's idea was that??? What a raw deal!!!??? Hmpf!

Okay, so, I am ready to pull my hair out. Who called ME a headache!? I'm not the headache, no way, not this time! These crazy yahoos that put these places up knowing they'll never have a loved one let alone themselves in the space ought to be ashamed! Man oh man, that should be a rule. Don't design something you wouldn't have your mom or best friend stay in.

And the top award for BUILDERS WITHOUT A CONSCIENCE GOES TO......
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Elvis
Post Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:48 pm

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Breathe, r69, breathe...

r69 wrote:
Crap sakes! I almost got in a car accident today leaving the crazy property as I attempted a U turn to go back the other way on Keele. Whose bright idea was that median? I mean really, I think it's more dangerous to have it there because I can't think of anyone who WANTS to come out of that gas station, go up Keele, turn right on Wilson, only to have to double back and make a SAFE AND LEGAL left back on to Keele. I mean GIVE ME A BREAK! Failing that, are we really supposed to go up Keele, cross over Wilson and then turn into Dominion or the library and then make a left out of those to get back on Keele!???!!! That's nuts!!!!!!! The Wilson idea is gonna be a traffic nightmare. Holy crapola!!!! I wish I could be in court on Wednesday.

The other day when I had stayed downtown so long I missed my "getting the KEY time", I came up Avenue to Wilson, drove up towards Keele and nearly had cardiac arrest at the long string of cars waiting to make a left at that crazy corner.

There has to be another light somewhere. They can't put it in front of the the CDN Tire gas bar because it's already smack dab bewtween two pretty close lights. They can't put it before the Keele light at Wilson because technically, there's no real STREET there! Ever feel like just having a good cry!?! Holy frustration. The people that live in that area must be freaking out! Where's a good urban planner when you need one? Although, I would suspect that a good urban planner never would have green lighted this project to begin with.

With a road going through where there is currently a big black fence, does that mean that the HoJos people would be required to "cross the little road" to get to their parking structure??? I don't get it. Did that hotel ever have underground parking? Was it always detached and if so, who the heck's idea was that??? What a raw deal!!!??? Hmpf!

Okay, so, I am ready to pull my hair out. Who called ME a headache!? I'm not the headache, no way, not this time! These crazy yahoos that put these places up knowing they'll never have a loved one let alone themselves in the space ought to be ashamed! Man oh man, that should be a rule. Don't design something you wouldn't have your mom or best friend stay in.


I just couldn't cut down your quote, r69. I'm in awe. This is the type of rant that should be emailed to every city councillor in Toronto. I think I just might do that. Get Maria panicking a bit more!

You mentioned that those fucks are untouchable because of their lawyers... wait until the accidents and personal injury stuff starts happening. I've got Toronto's top guys waiting. From the city to the builder, someone will be paying up. It's a shame to say it's inevitable, but... it's inevitable. That corner has really gone to hell. Hey, but Maria got her artwork! (only cost the area a major turning lane).

As for the parking structure, it was always way out back. I figure in the 70s and 80s it was a trade-off/drop-off zone ala Casino/GoodFellas. Fuck, I'm sure they're avoiding tearing down the ugly thing to avoid exhumations.

In the 90s it was definitely a place to steal a car or drop off a car. We had break-ins all the time. And staff was told to shut up about it, not scare the customers. The weekly break-in that was cried about at the bar was responded with "wow, sir, we'd never have expected that". The garage has been a running joke from day one. There was a great basement pic that didn't make it into the Mondo Condo pictorial showing a large collection of used condoms littering the garage basement floor. Cute and very telling.

So yes, the condo customers will have to cross the road with their groceries, or use the tunnel below the road. I suggest installing one of those walkway conveyor belts in the tunnel. That would be cool. Are there enough funds for that Cliff?

Throw in a few more of my pension bucks, you jerkoff.


EDIT IN: email link just sent to 60% of the city councillors (if you do all of them, it becomes 'spam'), the Toronto Star, and the Sun. Welcome again, dear city people!

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Elvis
Post Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:00 pm

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Check out this response from one of the councillors (edited down to protect the identity). Somehow my words offended..

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We do not put our noses in other councillor's areas.
If the councillor is not doing his job then do not vote for him/her in the upcoming election but to make a generalized comment that we have our heads in the sand when we have no business in that part of Toronto is not fair.


Wow, what a unified council we gots in T.O.! Maybe the other city councillors should care about their own residents tax dollars being ripped off. Or maybe they should become aware that their own residents do drive through other wards except their own. HEY BUY A FUCKING COUNCILLOR OFF AND NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!!! The City of Toronto has it's own code of silence. Great stuff, guys!

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SharynS
Post Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:27 am

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There was a great basement pic that didn't make it into the Mondo Condo pictorial...
I don't think we seen that one E - send it over, we'll give it e-wings.

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r69
Post Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:58 pm

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Fly on the wall reporting....

Long and short of today's proceedings:

CDN Tire 2 lawyers, Independence Way 4, an urban planner, a traffic guy and 3 observers.

Both CDN Tire & IW agreed to the temporary easement going out to Wilson Ave.

RIGHT turn IN and RIGHT turn OUT access ONLY for the foreseeable future. The median blocking left turns will stay put. If you are coming from NORTH on Keele, too bad for you. If you need to get back onto the 401 from the IW Block, too bad for you too. Wilson will be the way of choice and the IW Block cannot be registered with the City until the road issues have been fully dealt with.

Remember someone mentioned the word SLITHERY a little ways back? Well, that was quite the understatement. These people essentially built the space without caring about the fact that THEY KNEW THEY DIDN'T HAVE A ROAD FOR THE POTENTIAL BUYERS, knowing that they could deal with it later.

Well later is NOW!!!!! Now, anyone that bought is screwed because the builder doesn't care about when the building is registered because all the while, they get to collect RENT monies during the "OCCUPANCY PERIOD". Coming and going, that's how they get you...., coming and going.

It really does pay to stay informed in this game they call Real Estate. If you don't have patience or can't afford to be screwed in any way, shape or form, DON'T SIGN!!!! It really is that simple.

For those who drive cars and can access the property via the 401, no sweat on the way IN. For those that are coming from North, until Wilson access is open, you have NO CHOICE but to drive down Keele past Wilson, over the bridge, turn around and make your way in like the highway people.

Councillors???? You gotta be kidding me. Apparently, they have no power in this matter. The powerful entities in all of this are strictly the builder, the land owners that lease to the builder, the urban planners and the transportation/traffice experts.

DEPRESSING!
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:34 am

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r69 wrote:
CDN Tire 2 lawyers, Independence Way 4, an urban planner, a traffic guy and 3 observers.

Both CDN Tire & IW agreed to the temporary easement going out to Wilson Ave.


Interesting. You'd think Joe and the CCWIPP boys would send some of their lackeys as well. After all, their 'investment' is the one that's gonna get paved over. Does Westmount even have a lawyer? I know they gotta appear at the OMB next month. Is Joe gonna self-represent?

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RIGHT turn IN and RIGHT turn OUT access ONLY for the foreseeable future. The median blocking left turns will stay put. If you are coming from NORTH on Keele, too bad for you. If you need to get back onto the 401 from the IW Block, too bad for you too. Wilson will be the way of choice and the IW Block cannot be registered with the City until the road issues have been fully dealt with.


I wonder how the fire department feels about this? They already voted against the name "George Appleton Way", for dispatch confusion reasons (council went over their heads and approved it anyways). GRIDLOCK!!

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Remember someone mentioned the word SLITHERY a little ways back? Well, that was quite the understatement. These people essentially built the space without caring about the fact that THEY KNEW THEY DIDN'T HAVE A ROAD FOR THE POTENTIAL BUYERS, knowing that they could deal with it later.


Yup. But 'dealing with it later' is going to be difficult. The IW block might be in a mess, but having to depend on the idiots next door to help them out is even worse. No matter what happens, Westmount has to do construction at/in/on/under that garage. Imagine they get permission to build seven stories on top of the garage (such a brilliant idea). That 'easement' is going to be a construction traffic nightmare no matter what they plan. I hate to say this, but that area has to be the only place in Toronto where property values dropped as soon as the people bought.

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Councillors???? You gotta be kidding me. Apparently, they have no power in this matter. The powerful entities in all of this are strictly the builder, the land owners that lease to the builder, the urban planners and the transportation/traffice experts.


Well, you should at least say hello to Maria Augimeri. Ask her how much power she's had over the Keele/Wilson corner. Ask her about the Westmount and IW projects, who approved them and why. She's big on improving the streetscape, so find out if the Canadian Tire dump/gas-bar, the stucco-free beige 'condo' and off-white parkade were planned as the highlights of the area. She doesn't personally return my emails, although I do get a bunch of self-promotion emails from her office.[/quote]

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DEPRESSING!


Ya, it used to be that way for me too. Things get more fun and entertaining when you start unleashing the anger (directly at the responsible ones is recommended). You'll eventually get some neighbour support and things will get a lot easier.

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r69
Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:08 am

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hi there everyone!

i don't expect support but it's certainly nice when it comes.

i must say thanks to you here as i do indeed feel supported here. i also get amazing support from family. aside from that i can't say anything about the neighbours as i haven't quite met them yet!

this whole ordeal is certainly not what i was expecting. to know that only 3 homeowners showed up today and no maria and no hotel......well, what does that say about the potential for community involvement???

like i said the other night, if i am going to ultimately rent out this space then i cannot spend any time now losing sleep over the nonsense taking place. the builders will pocket their money from us over the next year or so and well, that's what we signed off on so i don't feel like any of us truly have a right to complain.

there is power in numbers and well, from the fire dept going against the naming of the street, to maria and her cronies, to even the townsuites going up without a designated road, the numbers for the GOOD side just were never there.

i think i'm gonna take a break from writing for a while. it's been really fun coming on and writing every day but as the realities of what i've done set in, i'm more than a little ashamed of myself for getting involved with the seemingly "SINISTER" norstar and willowfield homes builders. i feel like i could have done more investigative homework and as a result of not doing that, i've really taken a hit.

i am not PROUD to invite my friends to my new place. i am not excited to move in. i am not looking forward to hearing about the 101 reasons why my main complaint from the PDI is not and will not be addressed! i am not impressed with the shoddy workmanship of the unit within which the side counter is already separating from the back wall of the counter where the stools go and sadly, that's just one example.

for anyone out there who is thinking of investing in HARMONY VILLAGE at Finch and Islington or any of the last 3 units left at INDEPENDENCE WAY, i will not tell you what to do. i will say however, that if it were up to me, i would NEVER get involved with this builder!!!!!!

enjoy the rest of the month. if anything else happens at that property, you can bet i'll write about it!

Smilea dejected r69
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:36 am

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r69 wrote:
enjoy the rest of the month. if anything else happens at that property, you can bet i'll write about it!


Looking forward to it!

NEWS FLASH!!!!

uncharted.ca has received a Mondo Condo inside info tip! And it's hilarious!! Some legal digging has unearthed the 'lawyer' (well, pretty sure) acting on behalf of Westmount-Keele. The funny part of it is that the lawyer is the spitting image of a young Joe Ieradi!! Damn, put some grey hair and a bigger scowl on this guy and you are looking at the owner/builder of Toronto's most famous condo!

Here he is folks! Nephew, or cousin, Louie!!!!...



More info on Joe... I mean Lou... at http://www.foglerubinoff.com/lawyers/ln.htm

LET'S GO LOUIE!! LET'S GO LOUIE!! TERRACES!! TERRACES!!

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:37 am

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edit = double post.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:34 pm

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From the Toronto Star on Mar 18th...

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8. WESTMOUNT CONDOMINIUMS: 2737 Keele St., east side of Keele and south of Wilson Ave. Builder: Westmount-Keele Limited. A 10-storey, 247-unit conversion of a hotel with a stucco exterior and a seven-storey building with 147-units. Prices (parking and locker included): from $158,800 for 550 sq. ft. to $276,900 for 1,115 sq. ft. Fees: 36 cents per sq. ft. Amenities: party room and gym. Sales: Phase 1, 98 per cent sold; Phase 2, opening mid-March. Status: Phase 1, built. Occupancy: Phase 1, immediate; Phase 2, spring 2007. Sales centre: on-site on main floor, 416-630-5151; http://www.westmountcondo.com


I won't even bother with further comment on the above. What I'd rather do is provide a little uncharted.ca cross-thread promotion. All Mondo Condo readers should be aware of the great Black Ops series that member wm pasz is writing. If you like real-world crime/heist/mafia-type stories... stories that are currently on a collision course with the great Mondo Condo (what are the odds! too many names to recognize!) then you have to at least check out part 6...

Biz Union Black Ops P06: Silent Partners

Enjoy.

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:54 pm

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With a road going through where there is currently a big black fence, does that mean that the HoJos people would be required to "cross the little road" to get to their parking structure??? I don't get it. Did that hotel ever have underground parking? Was it always detached and if so, who the heck's idea was that??? What a raw deal!!!??? Hmpf!


The road will run about 60 feet in front of the parking garage (Joe likes to call it Phase II). It will have to veer to the right to run through the trash-laden vacant lot or connect to a fast-food drive through. Hey! Maybe that is it. It wll be a toll road. You'll have to buy a quarter chicken to pass.

Why did the Independence Way resident cross the road? To get a chicken.

Anyway, it's a joke when you look at it. The parking garage is inches away from one row on Independence Way condos on one side. On another there are a bunch of sloppy old houses. On the other side is a vacant lot that looks like an urban dump. On the new-road side you look smack up and into a couple of cheaply painted concrete towers and down onto road (more like a back alley) where hundreds of cars will roll in and out of Indpendence way.

Oh, where's my cheque book? Phase II is the place to be--NOT!
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Post Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:14 am

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...To get a chicken... Mr. Green

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:42 pm

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weiser wrote:
Oh, where's my cheque book? Phase II is the place to be--NOT!


On April 12th we find out if Joe's Phase II dream dies. An outsider not bribed-in to the situation, might think it's a ludicrous proposal but ya never know. Once again, we're dealing with the Mondo Condo.

Reading through the latest OMB decision concerning the neighbours tells me that anything is possible.

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Both the planner and traffic experts confirmed 2737 Keele Street being able to maintain its access to Keele Street until such time as the new public roadway is in place. At that time, 2737 will close its existing access along Keele and rely on the new public road. 2737 will still have access over the easement to its existing parking garage at the rear.


This is interesting. The hotel/condo occupants will lose their 401 access... and what the hell is Joe going to do with his 'road' now? The one that runs through, under and along the side of the hotel and entrance? Maybe that'll be the 'newly proposed villa-walkway' (use it Joe, on us).

It's just unbelievable to see how many hoops city officials will jump through so that a bunch of assholes can make money. "Hey Maria, I gots a piece of boxed-in land... how 'bout I put a ton of cheap houses ins here and sell 'em? That work for you? Huh, I need roads? Oh, get me some of those too then, you sweetie, you."

This comment from the OMB capped it for me...

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The Board commends the parties for their efforts in fully resolving this dispute.


...and they all lived happily ever after.

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