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| Laboryes |
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Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1959 |
I just heard this morning that Raleys/Nob Hill markets have just informed their retirees that in 2012 they will have to pay for their own Health Care!
Can anyone out there confirm this? If this is fact you can bet Safeway & Save Mart/Luckys will follow suit! If us grocery workers stand idle[again] and this is how our retirees are going to be treated.... Well all I can say is that the 1% sure appreciate your apathy! _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn |
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| Inside Lurker |
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Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 99 |
Found this LY.
Quote: Raley's will stop providing health coverage to its retired hourly employees 65 and older in July 2012, the supermarket chain said in a letter to retirees.
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/05/4031970/raleys-to-halt-health-coverage.html#ixzz1d58HjFhV |
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| Inside Lurker |
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Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 99 |
It would appear that this current Raley's attack on their retirees has gotten our friend John Briley a bit angry again. Oh how UFCW Local 5's Ron Lind must hate when brother Briley gets fired up and starts asking those tough questions!
The following is an email sent to Ron Lind by former UFCW President Local 839 John Briley- Quote: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 9:33 AM
Hello Ron --- I wanted to provide you with the following article that I find to be very serious as it relates to the above subject matter. Raleys To Halt Health Coverage for Some Retirees 65 Plus http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/05/4031970/raleys-to-halt-health-coverage.html Sac Bee / November 5, 2011 By: Darrell Smith "Raley's will stop providing health coverage to its retired hourly employees 65 and older in July 2012, the supermarket chain said in a letter to retirees. The letter, dated Oct. 24 and signed by Michael Teel, Raley's president and chief executive officer, said the chain is struggling to maintain profitability amid a down economy, increased competition and escalating health costs. "Unfortunately, due to the economic downturn and increased competition we are struggling to sustain our business," the letter read. "We have … determined that Raley's can no longer cover the cost of this benefit." I am curious as to the position you, President Loveall and President Sharpe are going to take with respect to Raley's Blatant Attack on their Retirees. Have the 3 Local Union President's responded to the Affected Members / Company yet? BTW... what position is Safeway and Savemart taking concerning this issue? Has this issue already been agreed to between the parties? Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank You John Briley It will be fun to watch to see if Ron Lind responds to brother Briley or if he'll actually be silly enough to ignore him. For any of you out there lurking in that may be new to uncharted you may want to check out this past thread where Briley bull dogs not only our former trust fund administrator but Local 5's President Ron Lind as well. When brother Briley ask the tough question of our unions leaders he expects answers! We should all be doing the same. |
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| unionnow |
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Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 658 Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail |
I have heard the same thing. Now health benefits are provide through a trust fund. One partner cannot unilaterally stop paying.
In other words, the agreement is that all participants will not have health benefits after 65. Only Raleys has the stones to warn their employees. The union and the other employers are silent. am I wrong???? _________________ “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1-2) |
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| unionnow |
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Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 658 Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail |
Thats right, they are double breasted. I forgot.
_________________ “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1-2) |
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| lucky75 |
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Joined: 09 Nov 2011 Posts: 9 |
Reading the SacBee piece,it looks as though the retirees they are talking about are non union staff.The company would not send that letter to retirees the trust fund would. Also the retiree was an accounts receivable dept. worker, they do not work in the stores.The SacBee piece says ( some hourly workers ). The real issue is what they do to ufcw retirees in our new contract. In the new socal contract the monthly cost to retirees went from $90 a month for a group plan to $125 PER PERSON,yes husband and spouse $250 a month.A huge jump for those on a fixed income.......
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| Laboryes |
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Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1959 |
lucky75 wrote: The real issue is what they do to ufcw retirees in our new contract. In the new socal contract the monthly cost to retirees went from $90 a month for a group plan to $125 PER PERSON,yes husband and spouse $250 a month.A huge jump for those on a fixed income....... First off lucky75...Welcome to uncharted! Always good to see new people here! You are dead on about what will happen with retirees with our upcoming contract! When you have two Save Mart head corporate guys that jump the Save Mart ship and then become our UFCW Nor Cal trust fund administrator you know that can't be good for us members!!! The UFCW is the corporate grocery's lap dogs and that only means more cuts for dues paying members. It's time that members awaken from their deep sleep and rise up in revolt against this corrupt marriage between the UFCW labor fakers and their corporate puppeteers. The time is perfect for a worker rise up with the occupy movement spreading across the country, the question that remains...does the rank n file members of the UFCW have the drive and the courage or will they continue to let themselves be bitch slapped deeper into poverty while the corporate fat cats and the UFCW labor fakers get richer from the fruits of "our" labor? Again welcome to the uncharted family lucky75! Eager to hear more of your thoughts! _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn |
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Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 658 Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail |
Quote: does the rank n file members of the UFCW have the drive and the courage or will they continue to let themselves be bitch slapped deeper into poverty while the corporate fat cats and the UFCW labor fakers get richer from the fruits of "our" labor? Not now, not ever. _________________ “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1-2) |
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| Scott Schroeder |
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Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 383 Location: Some where on the mountain |
lucky75 wrote: Reading the SacBee piece,it looks as though the retirees they are talking about are non union staff.The company would not send that letter to retirees the trust fund would. Not sure what to believe here now. Just got a report for someone who was in a Nob Hill store today that was told by "union members" and "management" that "both union and non-union retirees over 65 will be dumped from the health care". The trust fund will stay quiet on this as long as possible fearing an uprising of pissed off retirees! _________________ I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes one! |
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| lucky75 |
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Joined: 09 Nov 2011 Posts: 9 |
No real clarity in the SacBee piece, and the silence from the trust fund and the locals is unsettling, This is not a good thing. This need to be part of the current contract talks.....What good is a contract if it provides no security?
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| SharynS |
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Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 2883 Location: the 'puter |
Precisely lucky75, what good is belonging to a union if it simply means paying dues to be run over by greedy employers. Non-union People get that for free and can access labour standards without the middle man (union) running interference for the corporation.
UFCW goofs can spout shit about the best retail contracts yadyada but seriously compared to what? Other ufcw retail contracts? Compare them to non-union take homes and the image changes. UFCW has lowered the bar so low for working People, a union contract now amounts to little more than forfeiting your individual right to whatever little justice there may be. _________________ Free speech is the whole thing, the whole ball game. Free speech is life itself. - Salman Rushdie |
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| Inside Lurker |
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Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 99 |
Inside Lurker wrote: It will be fun to watch to see if Ron Lind responds to brother Briley or if he'll actually be silly enough to ignore him. Looks like Ron Lind indeed did respond to brother Briley. Quote: Ron Lind's e-mail dated 11/9/11:
Hi John This only applies to non-union Raley's employees. The unions and the companies have not exchanged any proposals with respect to health benefits at this point although I can tell you that Raley's appears to be taking a very aggressive stance at the bargaining table compared to Save Mart and Safeway. Ron Lind President, UFCW Local 5 International Vice-President 240 S. Market St. San Jose, CA 95113 (408)998-0428 Briley's follow up to Ron Lind. Quote: Friday, November 18, 2011
Hello Ron --- I wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for responding to my 11/8/11 e-mail (attached) and wanted to follow up with you regarding your e-mail you sent to me dated Wednesday, November 9, 2011. Ron, I am very curious as to where you received your information concerning Raleys position outlined in the newspaper article, only applying to their Non-Union Raleys employees? Did Michael Teel, Raleys President & CEO, provide the UFCW Northern Ca. Leadership with that in writing? As you and I both know, Mr. Teel is fully aware of who is Union & Non-Union employees are. If, Mr. Teel was only referring to his Non-Union employees in the newspaper article, he could have and should have clarified that fact immediately in the Sac Bee article. http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/05/4031970/raleys-to-halt-health-coverage.html Unfortunately, in my opinion, Mr. Teel wanted to send another message in that newspaper article. That message is Raleys is coming after all of their Retirees, whether they are Union or Non-Union! Now that we know Raleys intentions with respect to their Retirees, what is Safeway and Save Mart position going to be regarding their Retirees? Speaking of Savemart, I have provided you with copy of what appears to be a Memo from Steve Junqueiro, President & COO of Save Mart Supermarkets, dated 11/11/11, addressed to "All Company Employees". I could not help to be amused by some of Mr. Junqueiro's comments outlined in his Memo; Specifically, "And not only do we compete with these non-union competitors, but also with restaurants and other quick meal alternatives." I must say, this would be the first time for me having to hear from one of the largest Food Employer's in No. Ca. "whining" about "restaurants" / "quick meal alternatives" as "alleged" competitors! Additionally, in another portion of his memo, Mr. Junqueiro's "pathetic plea" regarding the following "alleged" sacrifices made by the Co.'s non-union workforce: "I want you to understand the sacrifices that we have all had to make. All areas of our company have been touched by cost cutting measures to keep us in business. In our corporate offices, we reduced staff by over 20%, we have frozen wage rates on all non-union employees for the last four years, and introduced premium payments to non-union benefit packages over the last two years." Speaking of sacrifices that our Save Mart Members have already made, obviously Mr. Junqueiro has forgotten about the infamous Local 5 document that outlines seven pages of concessions that Save Mart successfully extracted from the UFCW & our Save Mart Members in No. Ca. back in 2007! (see attached Save Mart C.B.A. Comparison 2007-2011) Specifically, how about the minimum of 17,640 hours to reach the top senior clerk wage rate! Now there is another gift-that-keeps-on-giving to Save Mart for years and years to come! Looking forward to keeping in touch with you throughout these Negotiations. Thank You for your time. John Briley John it would be nice if you could get linked up for viewing the two documents you refer to in your email to Ron Lind. |
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| Bill Sable |
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Joined: 14 Feb 2009 Posts: 259 |
Thanks, JB..!!! The Save-Mart "Poor, Poor Pitiful Me" routine puts me in mind of Safeway's complaint [back in the 1985 contract negotiations, if memory serves] that clerks had to take conccessions because of the competition to grocery sales posed by...gas stations.
Again, if memory serves, during the next round of negotiations, the grocers' complain was the competition posed by Walgreens and other pharmacies selling food items...absolutely blistering competition, especially when Safeway, et al. then went into the pharmacy business. Save-Mart...whining and dining. |
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| John Briley |
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Joined: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 616 |
Quote: John it would be nice if you could get linked up for viewing the two documents you refer to in your email to Ron Lind. Here you go..... Quote: Save Mart President & COO Steve Junqueiro letter dated 11/11/11.
http://www.uncharted.ca/images/users/ssigurdur/sm_lttr_11-11-11.pdf Quote: Save Mart C.B.A. Comparison 2007-2011
http://www.uncharted.ca/images/users/ssigurdur/07_011_sm_cba_comparison.pdf |
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