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wm pasz
Post Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:59 am

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According to a report in the Toronto Star today, the RCMP has declined to investigate the UFCW's troubled CCWIPP pension plan. The decision was based on an unspecified "assessment".

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weiser
Post Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:43 pm

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They decided not to "investigate". That's a lot different from deciding not to charge someone.

I think the decision to not "investigate" was made a long time ago.

The RCMP will feel something biting the other butt cheek that Arar isn't already chomping on. They will look around in the near future and see the fangs of their decision not to "investigate" buried deep, deep into the flesh of their collective fat asses. (this prediction is predicated on the assuptiion that they will get off those fat asses long enough for anything to bite them. Perhaps during the daily trip to Tim Hortons?)
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wm pasz
Post Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:48 pm

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I'm not at all surprised. Canadian law enforcement has a surprising tolerance for pension mismanagement. Given the amount of information these guys were provided, I'm surprised that they decided to look no further. But, oh well, it's be their problem.

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The Third Element
Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:32 pm

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wm pasz
Post Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:53 pm

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I have heard that the RCMP has a sort of quiet unofficial policy of staying away from investigations of union officials. It's possible, I suppose that some of its misguided bureaucrats consider this some sort of conflict of interest or act of disloyalty to their own union, who knows - it's f**ked up whatever the reason.

Of course, according to recent media reports, the Mounties seem to be up to their asses in misconduct (which oddly, includes pension fraud, nepotism, and other activities in which certain union officials badly in need of investigation are reknown for). To me, they just seem like a hapless bunch of ineptniks who haven't got the desire to deal with white collar crime.

No wonder we are becoming known as Nigeria of the North.

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taffy
Post Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:05 pm

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Well well welll,
My own meeting in the 80,s with the RCMP in Hamilton Ont, about my concerns with the Stienbergs pension and jointly administerd by ufcw, very cordial Very concerned, will check into my concerns now in the year 2006, Well well well
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You say there may be ulteria motives?
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unionnow
Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:29 pm

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"The (force's) assessment was completed and found there were not sufficient grounds to move forward with a criminal investigation," said Cpl. Michele Paradis, a spokesperson for the RCMP in Ontario.


It is normal to have a person of such low rank issue press releases and make comments in the press?

Down here that stuff his handled by lieutenants and Captains.

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wm pasz
Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:02 pm

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Yes, keeping the public informed is considered grunt work by the Mounties. There's not much to communicate anyway because of all the stuff they decline to investigate.

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Elvis
Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:34 pm

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"The (force's) assessment was completed and found there were not sufficient grounds to move forward with a criminal investigation," said Cpl. Michele Paradis, a spokesperson for the RCMP in Ontario.


Spin, you bastards. Spin.


Quote:
RCMP unable to pursue organized crime
report: Lacking manpower

James Gordon
CanWest News Service


Monday, August 14, 2006


OTTAWA - The RCMP squad that tracks down dirty money and goods obtained through crime cannot pursue the majority of cases it knows about due to lack of manpower, internal documents reveal.

According to an internal evaluation obtained by CanWest News Service, for each case the Mounties' Integrated Proceeds of Crime (IPOC) unit chooses to tackle, "at least four or five others" are ignored because the manpower isn't there.

"Many cases of missed opportunities were raised," reads the document, prepared by the federal government's internal auditing service. "All of the [officers in charge] were able to provide detailed reports of cases that had not been pursued, or for which the number of targets were limited to only a few when many more should have been pursued," it adds.

"In many cases, these targets were significant organized crime figures."

The evaluation repeatedly makes reference to "restricted impact" and "missed opportunities."

In an interview, the head of IPOC acknowledged the problems identified by the evaluators in 2005 continue to dog the unit today.

"There's been adjustments on our part," RCMP Staff Sergeant Bill Malone said. "Obviously, we've had to pick and choose which targets we go after. Unfortunately it's a very target-rich environment, but we increasingly can't get around to doing all of them."

In the absence of an ability to cast a wide net, Malone said, higher-ranking crime bosses are targeted with hopes that "by cutting off the head, the animal will die."

Instances of the RCMP not being able to take down serious gangs appear to be an ongoing theme.

RCMP Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli told the standing Senate committee on national security and defence in May that the Mounties can only fight a small fraction of organized crime in Canada.

"At this point in time, our best guess is that we're able to tackle maybe a third of what we know is out there, in terms of serious organized crime," Zaccardelli said at the time, adding that was probably a generous estimate. "And remember, when I say one-third, that's of what we know."

He referred to a wide swath of groups, including outlaw motorcycle gangs and Italian, Russian and Asian organized crime.

Although the Conservative government announced in its spring budget $37-million to expand the RCMP's training facilities in Regina and $161-million for prosecutors and 1,000 officers, it is unclear exactly where that money will go. In addition, the Commissioner's testimony revealed the amount likely won't be nearly enough to fulfill the promise.

Malone said the fact IPOC hasn't had a boost since 1996 means numerous cutbacks have been made to operations.

The IPOC evaluation was released to CanWest News Service under the Access to Information Act by the Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada after a 10-month delay.

It shows underfunding problems are trickling down to recruiting in several ways.

"Individuals also noted the difficulties of attracting and retaining resources from a limited pool of potential resources who are highly sought-after by various organizations," it says. "A long staffing process and a high learning curve exacerbate this problem."

Because the unit is technically without permanent funding, despite its long-term existence, evaluators believe some candidates might be reluctant to join up.



Spin, you bastards. Spin!

Quote:
"The (force's) assessment was completed and found there were not sufficient grounds to move forward with a criminal investigation," said Cpl. Michele Paradis, a spokesperson for the RCMP in Ontario.


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SharynS
Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:26 pm

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Royal Canadian Mounted Police - Maintiens le droit.

Well at least this puts an end to the rcmp motto controversy - "uphold the law"? "uphold the right"? - neither of which it does.

And, it has to put a whole new spin on mounted.

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wm pasz
Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:03 pm

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Oh what good news! Now even more crooks will be setting up shop here in Canada. I never thought I'd say it, but there are moments when I wish the Americans would come pouring over the border.

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The Third Element
Post Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:17 pm

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Keep talking like this and we'll all feel a gentle pressure between our ass cheeks as CSIS pokes around. Wanna bet the more corrupt "members" are keeping an eye out?

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wm pasz
Post Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:38 pm

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Recent reports about RCMP pension-fleecing may explain why Canada's lame version of an FBI had little interest in investigating the fleecing of the CCWIPP pension plan. It seems that looting pension plans and covering up has been part of the RCMP's internal culture for a long time.

This report in today's Globe and Mail contains some of the sordid details along with some illuminating related stories.

Quote:
(Auditor-General Sheila Fraser) reported last November the RCMP improperly charged at least $3.4-million to the pension fund, but later paid it back. She also said "an estimated $1.3-million was charged to the pension and insurance plans to pay for commissions or products that provided little or no value, and for excessive payments to employees' friends and family members hired as temporary staff. The pension plan has been reimbursed or credited $270,280 of those unnecessary or wasteful expenditures."

Even though an RCMP disciplinary investigation found that proceeding with disciplinary action was warranted against four of its regular and civilian members, the RCMP decided too much time had elapsed, she reported in November.

Yesterday, Ms. Fraser said she undertook an audit of the pension fund after the completion of an investigation into the matter by the Ottawa police force.


What is rather strange though is how the scale of the RCMP pilfering (a paltry $4 million or so) pales in comparison to the hundreds of millions that have been syphoned off from CCWIPP) yet we have the Auditor General and slew of Members of Parliament howling for an audit of the RCMP plan - yet no one, except the members, is howling for an audit of CCWIPP.

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SharynS
Post Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:42 am

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...the RCMP decided too much time had elapsed,...
Crime has a best before date? Is it good for all crime or just elite crime? Belaclavas are passe, suits and ties are in vogue.

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the doc
Post Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:04 pm

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The shoe seems to be on the other foot lately doesn't
it? I open the paper today and the Government has sent more RCMP to Afganistan. Please, they can't even
police their own pension plan. It is sad when you ask
the supposedly top police force in Canada to look into a crummy pension plan, that money is doing a very
fast disapearing act. They say no, and then proceed
to scream about their own pension plan. The MPs in
capital should stop playing politics with this
caper and let the officers of the RCMP file a
grievance just like all the rest of Canada is supposed to do. It is sad but the RCMP are no different than the rest of us when it comes to pension
plans. When I was a little kid, a friend and I went
to an RCMP detachment just to stare in aw at the guys
but today alot of years later I don't think I have
the same respect for them that I once did.
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