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SharynS	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:42 am
Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 2940 Location: the 'puter	contributed by Bill Pearson (Warning,: Reading this may be offensive to some, please continue at your own risk). The Irony Of It All... In the fall of 2005, UFCW 588 candidate for local union president Doug Slaydon was terminated by his employer Safeway. In Doug's words: "I found myself suspended for saying the word crap on the way out to the sales floor". The company found Doug's use of the word "crap" so offensive they fired him. Seems a "customer" (more coming on that story as well), overheard the word and was so offended he reported it to a District manager who "just happened" to be in the building. As ugly as that story was, this piece is far more dramatic and telling. It's just the irony of what they tried to hang Doug for is inescapable when you read the summary of events that took place at the Local 8 (old UFCW 588) membership meeting in August of this year. read more...
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Plutodog	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:27 am
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 300 Location: Oregon	That leaves me ... SPEECHLESS (almost)! That must of course hit every lunch room everywhere, and I'm not talking laying it around -- talk it around, hand out copies, let every member copy the text and email it to every newspaper email address they can find...also to congresspeople and other elected officials. This thing should be in everybody's email box by Monday morning - news, politicos, other unions, everywhere. Make this another "shot" heard round the world. Then let's go buy some more recording equipment! Oh did I mention that was masterful reporting/recording? 'Course Not... Goes without saying! _________________ "I'm not a humanitarian,I'm a hell-raiser" -- Mother Jones
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Laboryes	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:23 am
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1967	Let's go one step further! Everyone one that reads this and is disgusted as I am with their behavior call Jacques Loveall's office at (916)786-0588 ext 257 Or call fucktard Joe Ciotti at (916)786-0588 ext 250 Let Jacques and his cronies know that we all know and we are disgusted!!! _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn Last edited by Laboryes on Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:16 pm; edited 1 time in total
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rogead	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:05 am
Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 412	Thanks Bill for portraying this so vividly. I wish I could say that I was shocked by the truly fascistic tactics of local 8’s “leadership”, but very little could surprise me about this group after hearing of the carnage they’ve been engineering for years. When I first began posting on the old MFD site, I was amazed at how widespread this kind of corruption is within the UFCW. The international sits back and watches as these atrocities and indignities are foisted upon THEIR members, other locals go about their business as if it doesn’t affect them, and rank and file members continue to become disenchanted and disengaged. Labor bosses pretend to wonder why and pretend to care. I used to believe that the answer lay in some of the smaller, more progressive locals. I’ve come to realize that a few well-meaning locals don’t have the ability to repaint the broader picture. The international’s bylaws and constitution are intentionally structured so as to guard against any real democratic movement within the UFCW. This insures that control will be maintained by a very small group of labor elitists who, in turn, will see to it that the reigns of power are passed down to those it deems acceptable. Local 8 may be more obvious in its corruption, but its structure is a microcosm of the international’s. The m. o. is really the same: keep the members ignorant so you can pretend to educate them, refuse to allow member involvement…even as you blame them for not becoming involved, dumb-down contracts while increasing dues and staff perks—then become incensed when the members don’t kiss your asses for “working” so hard for them. The truth is that even the best of locals are afraid of real member democracy. When union leaders speak of member involvement, they mean that they want members to participate in the agendas that they (the union leaders) have set. The last thing labor leaders want is for members to actually set the agenda. The specter of “too much” democracy is the most frightening vision that could ever haunt the nightmares of business union demagogues. There isn’t a local within the UFCW where the idea of member-elected business agents and organizers would fly. Nor one that would ever accept the notion of withholding trusteeship positions from staff members. The staffs are far too insular, and the culture is far too entrenched in the gospel of entitlement and control. The very root of organized labor rests with the premise that employers have all of the power and don’t want to give any to workers, thus, we organize in order to take some of that power. The leadership of the international and its locals are no different than our employers. They have the power; they don’t want to give it up; we need to take it! What happened at local 8 didn’t just happen to those who attended. It happened to me, it happened to every member of every local in the UFCW, and it happened to all workers—wherever they live and whatever they do because “An injury to one is an injury to all”. I’m going to guess that Joe Hansen has rhetorically used that quote a few times. Let’s see if he really understands and believes in its meaning. Quote: Let's go one step further! Everyone one that reads this and is disgusted as I am with their behavior call Jacques Loveall's office at (916)786-0588 ext 257 I'll be posting the story and that number on the board at work. I also think we should create an online petition for Jacque's ouster. I would think we could link it to other reform sites, then send copies to the D.O.L. and to Hansen--not that he's likely to do anything, but it will serve to put him on notice that ground zero is approaching. Last edited by rogead on Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:04 am; edited 2 times in total
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Plutodog	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:36 am
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 300 Location: Oregon	A web petition could be another good tactic -- link it in all the places you send the story out to so folks will sign it and the Loveall's can watch it grow. "Dear Congressperson X, I think you would agree that this kind of treatment (see story below) should never happen to any American worker and dues paying union member? Maybe you could make some calls, hold some hearings, shine the light of justice on these miserable miscreants?" "Dear fellow SEIU member (or Teamsters, UNITE-HERE, Laborers, Farm Workers, and Carpenters), I know you'll agree dues paying union workers should NEVER have to put up with this from their so-called leaders. Shouldn't we all be writing (our international prez) and tell him to tell Joe Hansen to clean house before we all stink?" "Dear Editor____" "Hello fellow bloggers _____" I imagine there's plenty of other possibilities. Nothing like exposure to sunshine to shrink inflamed anal sphincters (and other parts)! Make it painful for Loveall and his associates to walk outside he's so over-exposed. Get the heat on Joe Hansen like he's never felt. "Dear Prezident Schmuck____!" Here's some side doors into Change to Win: opportunities@changetowin.org info@changetowin.org Change to Win's Communications Director, Carole Florman: carole.florman@changetowin.org --Hey, see the pattern on that email address? If you know anybody else at CTW, same pattern should get to them. Think it might work for: AnnaBurger@changetowin.org; EdgarRomney@changetowin.org; JosephHansen@changetowin.org; JamesHoffa@changetowin.org; GeralynLutty@changetowin.org; DouglasMcCarron@changetowin.org; TerenceOSullivan@changetowin.org; BruceRaynor@changetowin.org; ArturoRodriguez@changetowin.org; AndrewStern@changetowin.org; ?-- Worth a shot! _________________ "I'm not a humanitarian,I'm a hell-raiser" -- Mother Jones
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Elvis	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:59 am
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 661 Location: Toronto	So I called the office and listened to buffoon-boy welcome me to his Local answering service. I had a problem with the navigation and ended up in the 'general mailbox'. I wasn't there to talk. I instead played one of my all-time favorite instrumentals for the Local 8 peeps. Hopefully siggy can be convinced to post it here soon. Maybe others will find use for it (phone in once with it each to show you're united- place it in various extension mailboxes- and I guarantee Jacques will end up in a looney-bin soon). It's a great tune to play whenever you want to let them know that the people have risen up, are already here... and the guys in charge, if they haven't already, should be shitting their pants ASAP. Oh the fun we will have! _________________ Henri Ducard: Your compassion is a weakness your enemies will not share. Bruce Wayne: That's why it's so important. It separates us from them.
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Elvis	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:10 am
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 661 Location: Toronto	Elvis wrote: Oh the fun we will have! The uncharted powers that be have allowed the posting of a low quality 32kbps version of the tune that's guaranteed to drive Loveall crazy. Enjoy. Local 8 will. Hopefully over and over! http://www.uncharted.ca/media/audio/15_Amazing_Grace_32.mp3 ...and to own the full quality original, click me. To see a live version with words and a sermon, click me _________________ Henri Ducard: Your compassion is a weakness your enemies will not share. Bruce Wayne: That's why it's so important. It separates us from them.
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exraleys	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:01 pm
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 193	That account was excellent. I am going to copy it and post multiple copies in my store. If we can get enough of these out in the stores to let the members know REALLY what is going on with their union, then maybe we can make a change. I hope that there is a 3rd tape recorder!!!!
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loonietunes	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:18 pm
Joined: 30 Mar 2006 Posts: 1210	rogead wrote: Thanks Bill for portraying this so vividly. I wish I could say that I was shocked by the truly fascistic tactics of local 8’s “leadership”, but very little could surprise me about this group after hearing of the carnage they’ve been engineering for years. The very root of organized labor rests with the premise that employers have all of the power and don’t want to give any to workers, thus, we organize in order to take some of that power. The leadership of the international and its locals are no different than our employers. They have the power; they don’t want to give it up; we need to take it! I'll be posting the story and that number on the board at work. I also think we should create an online petition for Jacque's ouster. I would think we could link it to other reform sites, then send copies to the D.O.L. and to Hansen--not that he's likely to do anything, but it will serve to put him on notice that ground zero is approaching. Rogead-- I think we have reached ground zero! What happened at this meeting is--- Labor Union Leadership at its very worst! I can't agree more with the fact that this story has to be shared with everyone- -News Orgs--Church Groups--YMCA--Medical Providers--Labor Unions etc. Everyone and Anyone Now as for you "Jacques"-- If you think you are man enough to destroy the "Rank and File" dues paying members of UFCW Local 8--Go for it- -I believe you will find that your dirty tactics are history--and even your bought and sold-for---lawyers and judges that your dad has hidden in his back pocket aren't going to save your sorry little ass. As for you--John Heise- -How could you do this to your dad-?? ---by-trying to destroy a hard working-UFCW-Rank and File union member like Doug Slaydon--you have trashed everything that your father ever stood for when he worked for the UFCW. There is no question in my mind that Doug Slaydon was set up--and his firing was orchestrated by the Lovealls and Safeway working as co-conspiritors. This sort of thing has been routine--in many parts of the UFCW empire--especially in some parts of the Southern California UFCW empire. But Jacques- -here is the rub--people are mad as hell and they are not going to take this trashing anymore--not from you-not-from your dad--not from the lawyers--Company Reps or judges that you golf with. The sooner you come to grips with this new reality the better it will be for everyone concerned. LT
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wm pasz	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:24 pm
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1219 Location: Toronto	Great account BP! Now that's making it - what it's like to be a member of a corrupt 20th century union - real. Can we post the audio? That would make it even more real. It might even find its way onto ipods and into ringtones. Elvis - maybe you can set it to music like you did with our friend Joe the UFCW favourite construction tycoon? I'm serious, there is no more effective way (apart from video) to bring this shamefully thuggery into the public eye. I'm serious, let's get the sound happening. We did it once before on the MFD site with a Local 1518 GMM. There was no violence or profanity in that one - just stupidity - but it totally freaked the 40 or so assembled lords of labour whose dimwittedness was exposed for all the world to hear. I have to say that it seems that as their delusions of grandeur are shredded, the UFCW league of leaders becomes more loutish, responding to those "mysterious forces" who are shattering their delusions and putting their lucrative trade in jeopardy with the only weapon they have - their arrogance. I think that Doug and his colleaugues who attended the meeting should be very proud. The louts of labour fear you so much that 40 of them had to assemble to meet you and plot for some time in advance how they were going to prevent you from speaking. When it became clear that they were not going to be able to shut you down, they freaked out. What does that tell us? Yes, we are a force. No doubt about that. Post the sound file - let's freak them out some more. _________________ Time is on the side of the oppressed today, it's against the oppressor. Truth is on the side of the oppressed today, it's against the oppressor. You don't need anything else. - Malcolm X
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atuuschaaw	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:50 pm
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 781 Location: an ahwangan	That is an absolutely awesome account of reality! So real, it's absolutely nauseating! I'm with wm, the sound file should be made available for all to hear! The only way it will get better is by removing the walls that have hidden all the atrocities. We have to tear the walls of deception down and transparency is the tool we should use. As broadband expands and reaches more and more of us, video and audio will be the shizzit! If bandwidth is a problem, the file could be hosted through Our Media where it will be archived via the Internet Archive. Any thoughts? _________________ "Speaking the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act." George Orwell
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Pearson	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:41 pm
Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1417 Location: Sun City AZ	Lemme try and see what the guys at the meeting are willing to part with. As you can see by the awesome suugestions and commentary, this story should travel far and wide. I expect we will see some attempt at legal recourse and i know the abilitiy to stem that is in how much we can prove relative to what happened. I will say, i wouldn't have put my name to this if i had any doubt as to its validity. I will leave you a teaser. I know this is unfair, but its the best i can do. There is something far more powerful, more dramatic than anything i wrote or was even done that night. If we are able to secure use of it, we will be able to destroy the myth and begin to dismantle the walls of the biz union model. Again, thanks to all for their suggestions and comments. Let me leave you with this: Anthing i contribute is miniscule in relation to what the members at 588 have been through. They are the hero's, they are the ones putting their ass on the line trying to make a difference. Thanks to each and everyone one of them for standing up for the right things. _________________ If we don't do it, who will?
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exraleys	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:29 pm
Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Posts: 193	Jacques Loveall If you are reading these posts Fuck You , you big fat piece of stinky shit. You need to leave this country and go to a 3rd world country and be the El President'e that you are. This country needs leaders that follow democratic ideals. There is no room for you and your kind here. You and your cronnies are the one's that have ruined the union movement in this country. You have totally played into the hands of the employers. Oh , and did I forget to say that you are a big fat piece of dog turd?
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Laboryes	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:32 pm
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1967	Quote: They are the hero's, they are the ones putting their ass on the line trying to make a difference. Thanks to each and everyone one of them for standing up for the right things. BP,Siggy & the MFD crew,Labor Notes,Unionnow,LT and many others have been our back bone! Without any of you none of this would ever have gone as far as it has. You all have been my teachers,my friends,my brothers & sisters and most of all my driving force when I personally got fed up and wanted to say fuck it and quit! I know Doug and some of the others probably feel the same way. We are no heros just union members who believe we should have a voice and believe in democracy! And sometimes we just like a good fight! Ain't that right Grumpy _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn
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mun-key	Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:43 pm
Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Pacific NW	I almost crapped a twinkie when I read Bill's account. While our union her is not so blatant in their disregard of members, there is mis-treatment of the rank and file and intimidation & isolating of elected leaders who fail to blindly follow international program. I called the numbers listed in Loboreye's posting and got lost in some sort of phone hell. I too had to leave a message in some general mail box. Having had to listen to Loveall's greeting about how he is making CA a better place and solidarity, I almost lost my breakfast. Shameful, disgusting and unacceptable are only a few of the words I would use to describe the behavior of these so called leaders. The foul names these so-called leaders hurled at a rank and file member must be a result of these leader's personal and indepth knowledge of what being an asshole, sleaze or cocksucker is really all about! I beleive they call it transference in Psychology! I feel this incident really fits in ti what Wanda talked about in her series. What can we do to help besides leave messages and post the story everywhere?
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