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deep throat	Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:08 am
Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 13	I know for a fact that there is wide spread dissention among the "family". Mikey Sharpe might have to run with a new slate of candidates.
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SFway	Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:53 am
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 573	DT...Absolutely inexplicable!!
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deep throat	Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:01 pm
Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 13	Money seems to be the topic.
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SFway	Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:14 am
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 573	DT: While not knowing alot about your Local, if there is debate and dissent within its administration about priorities and how to distribute resources to obtain better contracts for Members and how to organize new Members, then such debate/dissent is a healthy thing. Should the dissent be about who gets the biggest piece of the salary pie, then I would conclude that this is symptomatic of the problem the UFCW confronts. Everything folks have spoken of on the "Exposing the UFCW" thread centers around this - a tawdry brand of corruption that ought not, and must not, continue. It runs through the UFCW like grass through a goose...and ultimately lands on the heads of the Members. If the latter, it is thoroughly indefensible.
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Pearson	Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:10 pm
Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1417 Location: Sun City AZ	Quote: Should the dissent be about who gets the biggest piece of the salary pie, then I would conclude that this is symptomatic of the problem the UFCW confronts. Everything folks have spoken of on the "Exposing the UFCW" thread centers around this - a tawdry brand of corruption that ought not, and must not, continue. It runs through the UFCW like grass through a goose...and ultimately lands on the heads of the Members. Way awesome post sfw and i especially liked the above comment; it pretty well summarizes the entire recent history of the ufcw since it's merger. The money grabbing hysteria of so many of the boys has been staggering. There has been little or no shame as guys i respected and admired have bellied up to the bar and drank until there was nothing left. What has made it such a blatant pigout has been lost in the real agenda: setting themselves up for massive pension checks when they retire. The LM2's and their salaries are one thing, but it would shock and awe even the most ardent ufcw supporter if they ever saw a printout of what their hero's were drawing in retirement. Add on the hefty retirement gifts, the consultant gimics and whatever other games they can play to extract members money and you wanna wretch. Sadly, its not just the members who are going to be the recipient of the goose's grass droppings. The staff and new officers have been crapped on as the old timers gorged themselves and "fixed" it by screwing those coming behind them. Just more shameful behavior by those who are self-serving leaders of this once great movement. Hopefully local 688 isn't caught up in the cash cow game, though with the coming mergers and possible bidding wars to buy locals, who knows? Maybe deep throat can fill us in... _________________ If we don't do it, who will?
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deep throat	Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:55 pm
Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 13	Its about the salary pie. Everybody there thinks they should earn more for doing less. It appears that the current president, Mikey sharpe is a control freak and paranoid about everything. Caves in to a cetain group who may be challenging him. The executive board no longer functions. Election is scheduled for next year.
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unionnow	Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:19 pm
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 695 Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail	Sharpes' dad seemed to run that union into near insolvency. He was the big bucks king in the Bay before Loveall came along. Seems to be some merger talk in the Bay. Sharpe does not want to have anything to do with it but he may to avoid an election that he could lose. Money is only a tiny fraction of this. It’s about running the union as a union. The rank and file put through the grocery workers retention ordinance. The San Francisco Board of Supervisors and City Council think the rank and file leaders are the union president and staff; most of the others city labor leaders think that as well. Imagine the biggest labor city on the West coast, home of the biggest labor actions in the nation and these UFCW fucks are not know by the movers and shakers in the community. These UFCW fucks want to collect the big bucks to stay invisible. It’s shameless. They think it’s a waste of money to fight for our contract. The whole union revolves around staff and what they can shake down the members for. The thought of being union is gone and has been replace by the labor fakers. _________________ “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1-2)
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deep throat	Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:53 pm
Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 13	You are correct. Mike's dad, Joe, was Presdent for awhile and was extremely well paid. He made $237,000/year and the executive board bought him a truck. I was not aware that merger talks are under way with 648. Will thry merge? Mike received a personal contract (before his dad retired) for about $82,000 for being a rep in case his cronies lost the next election-which they did. A totally useless, lazy bastard sucking the union funds dry.
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Pearson	Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:58 am
Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 1417 Location: Sun City AZ	Quote: You are correct. Mike's dad, Joe, was Presdent for awhile and was extremely well paid. He made $237,000/year and the executive board bought him a truck. This is just like watching a really bad soap opera; funny if it wasn't so tragic. Where the hell does the e-board get off giving these guys anything? This is standard operating procedure in many locals; the board awards the officers and sometimes even staff a vehicle. Who knows, if they start doing that as members retire they may well be able to organize once again. Quote: Mike received a personal contract (before his dad retired) for about $82,000 for being a rep in case his cronies lost the next election-which they did. Say what? What the hell is a personal service contract? When does the lunacy ever end? When does the international stop the crap? When does outcome based accountabilty become an essential ingredient in determining the leadership? The answer... PROBABLY NEVER! and certainly not until democracy is restored and the biz union model dismantled. We are trapped in a time warp where those in control will never change unless they are forced to. I do wonder when Dority retired if they gave him that SUV he was driving. I also wonder how they show that on the LM2's? It would be fun if one of the DOL folks came on here and explained this stuff rather than just reading it. _________________ If we don't do it, who will?
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SFway	Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:02 am
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 573	Unionnow, et al. I'm truly pleased to hear that the rank and file Members of Local 648 have taken such a prominent place and role in the Local, with the grocery ordinance. My contact with 648 Members at the NorCal grocery negotiations was extensive. 648 Members became the voice for their Local during those five months; the old administration showed up only rarely and the new one (Mike Sharpe's) could be bothered to show up at all. So the Members of 648 stepped up and did an incredible job - the presence and voice of their Local in bargaining with their employers, in their stores and with the public. Constructive, creative - these were some damn fine Members. If they are the future of Local 648, then things are going to get better.
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deep throat	Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:45 am
Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 13	A bright future we all hope for but only if the giveaway ends and get people that truly cares for the members. We may be forming a group to run. Any thoughts or advice.
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unionnow	Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:06 am
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 695 Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail	DT Have you talked with any of the people in your local that has formed a group and is running? I know they go to the business meetings pretty regularly. _________________ “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1-2)
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deep throat	Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:50 pm
Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 13	I have heard rumors that another group is running but have not confirmed it. Some of their members I know and some of them are more "progressive" and would probably do more harm than good. I have aked 7 people to join me and am looking for more to run. If you know of any please email me. Any help would be appreciative.
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SFway	Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:31 pm
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 573	DT: It sounds a little complicated, but I am curious - how is this one group "more progressive" (and than whom?) and in what way would they do more harm than good? If they are more "progressive" in some fashion than the current leadership, you may have some ground to connect and form a united front. Just a thought - or a question. Because, sure as apples is apples, most Locals of the UFCW need some changing, and many of them need some real, deepdown changing.
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unionnow	Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:08 am
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 695 Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail	Thats interesting. There are all kinds of ideas and factions that can develope. Everyone has the right to run. Sounds like you dont like the group that has formed to challenge Sharpe. Sharpe did a good job of regaining control of that local after Mary Chambers. Why someone would vote him back in after his dad is beyond me but I heard he had a diverse slate. He is strange by all accounts that I have heard. I certainly dont trust him in the times I dealt with him. Sounds like a bruising battle is taking shape. Maybe someone can give us a bit of history of the local. I have an old LM from 1992 I can dig up and do a compairson to today. _________________ “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1-2)
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