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ross53
Post Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:48 pm

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Hello everyone,

I'm back doing okay and ready to take on the UFCW Local 135.

I'm in the process of conducting an exploratory campaing for the upcoming election at UFCW Local 135
I'm thinking of running for office.

The Local 135 official are very unhappy therefore they did????? you cannot believe until you read it

They Threating me to back off or my life will become
"OPEN BOOK". I respond to the union "BRING IT ON, IT'S SHOWTIME"

Please ready more on www.rossandtheunionboss.com

Stay calm while you are reading this is the "truth".

With Love from San Diego,

Ross53
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Laboryes
Post Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:22 am

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Hey Ross,
I hope you had a witness to this going on? If not it's time to buy a small tape recorder and carry it with you at all times also keep a camera close by.

One question are you going this alone or do you have a whole slate of other members running with you to fill all VP & secretary treasure positions?

Watch your back brother and try and post all goings on over here on the uncharted much more traffic here and a lot of caring people willing to help.

For anyone that wasn't able to veiw Ross's story here it is below.

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Written by Ross Bagnasco
Tuesday, 27 June 2006
Below is a recap of a recent experience that I had with my store's UFCW Local 135 representative:



June 20, 2006
The union representative for my store decided to visit my work place with the intention of speaking with me. A Local 135 union representative wanting to speak with a union member?! Shocking, yes I know. Anyhow, his vist, as I came to find out later, was not a friendly one. He began by asking me if I was running for office in the upcoming UFCW election. My initial feeling regarding this question was that of confusion. My response to him was simply "I'm thinking about it". What happened next could have been described best as a scene straight from the movie "Goodfellas". Basically his respone was that if I did run for office that my life would become an "open book" and everyone would know everything about me. Wow! I couldn't believe that the union, the same organization that is supposed to look out for my best interests, basically implied "you go against us, we're going to make you pay". Is this a union or the mafia?! Shocked with the reponse that I was given, I gave the only reply that I thought was acceptable at the time and that was simply the word "so". The union stooge's (mafia messenger) only response to me was simply "well then" as he then preceeded to leave. I have nothing to hide and welcome the union's "threat". Their scare tactics are not going to work on me. I find it amazing that I have not even decalred myself an official canidate and yet the union is already bringing in their inforcers using their scare tactics to try and get me to withdrawl from the election. Are they afraid that I might tell the people what they don't want them to hear? I guess the old saying "the truth hurts" applies in this situation because the union apparently thinks that if the people know the truth it will hurt the Local 135 in the worst way.
I earn my paycheck by complying with the rules and regulation setforth by my employer. I do not have a criminal record and have never been demoted from my job unlike others. I have always been a loyal employee as well as a loyal union member. Did you know that before Mickey Kasparian, current president of the Local 135, became a union offical he was employed as a meat cutter at which time the union went on strike? Do you think Mickey stayed loyal to his union during that time? You see I believe, on the otherhand, that union officials earn their paychecks by betraying the union members. If they want a battle I am willing and able to give them one. In the words of my generation, "bring it on, it's showtime!"


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Matt Noyes
Post Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:51 pm

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Are illegal. From the LMRDA:

Deprivation of Rights Under Act by Violence

(29 U.S.C. 530)

SEC. 610. It shall be unlawful for any person through the use of force or violence, or threat of the use of force or violence, to restrain, coerce, or intimidate, or attempt to restrain, coerce, or intimidate any member of a labor organization for the purpose of interfering with or preventing the exercise of any right to which he is entitled under the provisions of this Act. Any person who willfully violates this section shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

Enforcement is not as clear as the language above. You may want to contact the Association for Union Democracy (where I work) for advice on this situation.

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wm pasz
Post Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:21 pm

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The best thing to do with these kinds of threats Ross, is to expose them. Obviously these guys are desperate and afraid of you. This kind of shit is remarkably common. Keep publicizing this guy's threats. Put them on your web site, on this web site, circulate them widely. The slugs crawl back under their rocks when exposed to the light.

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unionnow
Post Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:24 pm

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Ross,

If you e-mail me I can point you to some people in the Department of Labor.

If there were witnesses to this you should file with the NLRB. Always have witnesses when they talk to you.

Document everything.

They will deny making threats and it will be a draw without witnesses.

YOu should shoot a letter off to the UFCW chief legal counsel, Johnathan Jay saying you have been threatened in violation of your rights and you are going to use all the resources of the government to expose this if it continues.

They will send you back a bs letter but at least they will know.


Don't run alone, you have to find a bunch of people to run with you. Hold their names close till its time to get on the ballot.


Above all, Mickey and these labor fakers are putting on an act. They are a mob of goons not a mob of orgainzed criminials like we see in the movies.

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loonietunes
Post Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:08 pm

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Very Important as well--

Have the witnesses give you signed statements ---and don't forget to have a written record the date and time--of each time you are threatened----

You want to build a solid foundation for a potential-major- "Legal" case against them---for ----

"Infliction of Emotional Distress"

--It would be a good idea to talk to an attorney----that knows a little bit about how unions work--he or she would be able to point you in the right direction-

--you may find some "Labor Attorney" that might actually give you free aid---there out there---

Good Luck----

"BE STRONG AND OF GOOD COURAGE"

LT
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Laboryes
Post Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:17 pm

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Hey Ross,
One thought I had if this asshole comes in again and says one word to you maybe it would stir things up if infront of witnesses you were to go home from work right then and there!

Like LT said "Infliction of Emotional Distress"

And being that it happened "on the job" you may want to file a workers comp claim for "stress"

Just a thought!

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ross53
Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:06 pm

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July 06, 2006
Certified Mail 7005 1820 0006 2596 4296
Mr. Joseph. T Hansen
UFCW International Union
1775 K Street, NW
Washington DC 20006
Re: UFCW Local 135

Dear Mr. Hansen:

This letter is simply to inform you of the action taken by UFCW Local 135 official against me
your response will determine if I need to seek help from other sources.
June 20, 2006 The union representative for my store decided to visit my work place with the intention of speaking with me. A Local 135 union representative wanting to speak with a union member?! Shocking, yes I know. Anyhow, his visit, as I came to find out later, was not a friendly one. He began by asking me if I was running for office in the upcoming UFCW election. My initial feeling regarding this question was that of confusion. My response to him was simply "I'm thinking about it". What happened next could have been described best as a scene straight from the movie "Goodfellas". Basically his response was that if I did run for office that my life would become an "open book" and everyone would know everything about me. Wow! I couldn't believe that the union, the same organization that is supposed to look out for my best interests, basically implied "you go against us, we're going to make you pay". Is this a union or the mafia?! Shocked with the response that I was given, I gave the only reply that I thought was acceptable at the time and that was simply the word "so". The union stooge's (a mafia messenger) only response to me was simply "well then" as he then preceded to leave. I have nothing to hide and welcome the union's "threat". Their scare tactics are not going to work on me. I find it amazing that I have not even declared myself an official candidate and yet the union is already bringing in their enforcers using their scare tactics to try and get me to withdrawal from the election. Are they afraid that I might tell the people what they don't want them to hear? I guess the old saying "the truth hurts" apply in this situation because the union apparently thinks that if the people know the truth it will hurt the Local 135 in the worst way.







I earn my paycheck by complying with the rules and regulation set forth by my employer. I do not have a criminal record and have never been demoted from my job unlike others. I have always been a loyal employee as well as a loyal union member. Did you know that before Mickey Kasparian, current president of the Local 135, became a union official he was employed as a meat cutter at which time the union went on strike? Do you think Mickey stayed loyal to his union during that time? You see I believe, on the other hand, that union officials earn their paychecks by betraying the union members. If they want a battle, I am willing and able to give them one. In the words of my generation, "bring it on, it's showtime!" While in the process of doing my exploratory campaign I set up my own website, I invite you to visit it www.rossandtheunionboss.com

Sincerely,


Ross Bagnasco


Siggy,LT,Pearson,unionnow,Laboryes,Elivs,pasz,Grunpy, and all.
On the same day I also sent the same letter to Edward Wendell Jr Legal Department of the UFCW International and a copy to Shaun Barclay Director of Region 8 Western, Ontario California.
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SharynS
Post Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:05 pm

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Sorry to say Ross but letters which outline the obvious and which point to the stench, tend to send the fat boys scurrying back into their hole, so you won't be hearing from tham. But the great news is that letters like that help others to identify. Lots of sad days for unionism but at least people are finding out they're not alone.

This is kind of funny, or maybe you had to be there. We were driving along, one of the short people in the car noticed what he thought was a gasoline tanker truck ahead. He commented something about it exploding, blowing up and how fun it might be (12 yr olds do that right).

Little did he know it wasn't filled with gasoline, it was a septic tanker. When we envisioned that explosion it made me think of ufcw. That's exactly what it's going to be when the ufcw shit finally hits the pavement. Wet suit anyone?

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ross53
Post Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:09 pm

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Siggy,

I have confirmed with the United State Post Office that, my letter to Mr. Hansen was delivered on July 10, 2006 at 10:49am,Washington DC time.

NO answers yet from Mr.HANSEN, Mr.Wendell or Mr. Barclay.

I know you are right, they will not answer, but I need to continue to creat a paper trail, therefore when we go to court, none of them can say I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE ISSUES.

"union official earn their paychecks by betraying the union members"Ross53 Cool
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loonietunes
Post Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:54 pm

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ross53 wrote:

I need to continue to creat a paper trail, therefore when we go to court, none of them can say I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE ISSUES.
)


Ross-

This is why-

-I really believe that you should file a Police Report and also file a report with the San Diego District Attorney's office--regarding the "threats" made against you--by any and all officials of UFCW Local 135.

LT
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ross53
Post Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:12 am

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Hello everyone,

Got a letter from President Hansen in reference to the threat.

Would you like to know Mr Hansen answers?

I refereed you letter President Mickey Kasparian and I have asked him to contact you or have his designate representative contact you.

How stupid to Mr Hansen really think that we the union members are?

Mr. Kasparian is the one who sent the Union rep to threatening me and the rep is the one who execute the order.

Mr Hansen, the problem will not be solved without the UFCW International intervention.

MICKEY IS THE PROBLEM "CAPISCE"

"union official earn their paycheck by betraying the union members" Ross 53 Cool
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ross53
Post Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:10 pm

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Siggy,

Copy of the actual letter from Hansen about the Shop Stewards. (no solution to the problem another B/S)
Hansen wiill be in San Diego the 27 and the 28 of July 2006 you think he will contact me?

July 21,2006

Mr. Ross Bagnasco Member, UFCW Local No. 135

Re: Local No. 135 — Ross Bagnasco — Union Representative

Dear Brother Bagnasco:

I have referred your letter of July 6, 2006 regarding your union representative, to Local No. 135 President Mickey Kasparian, and I have asked him to contact you or have his designated representative contact you regarding your concerns.

With kind regards, I am

Sincerely and fraternally,


International President
Joseph T. Hansen, International President


Anthony M. Perrone, International Secretary-Treasurer
United Food & Commercial Workers International Union, CLC
1775 K Street, NW • Washington DC 20006-1598
Office (202) 223-3111 • Fax (202)466-1562 • www.ufcw.org
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loonietunes
Post Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:09 pm

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ross53 wrote:

Got a letter from President Hansen in reference to the threat.



Ross-

-I know you have been busy--but if you haven't done so yet--you really do need to go to the San Diego police Department and the San Diego D.A.'s office and file official "Threat" reports with those agencies--regarding the threats that were made against you by Local 135--personel. Do it Today if possible.

Even-if Hansen were to meet with you --it would help your cause --if you can show that you have done all you can within the legal system and that you will go to whatever length in order to try and protect yourself and your family etc.

Hang in there--good luck tommorrow!

LT
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taffy
Post Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:02 pm

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I ran for the position of president of the ufcw retail council Ont(now local 175) in the year 1972, same threats where made then Bill Hanley Wayne,s father was the president at the time we had a full slate and did surprising well, but when we where half way through the election and we were making inroads, the gloves came off and we made a valiant effort but it is hard to fight a smear campaign with minimum finances, but No member of our slate travelled alone or had one on one meetings, be carefull, our slogan was,
time for change stop being treated like a MUSHROOM.
KEPT IN THE DARK AND FED BULLSHIT
30 years later will they change?
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