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Jeff-Hulk-Hemp
Post Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:31 pm

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/iraq.al.zarqawi/index.html

Bush: Terrorist's death could 'turn the tide' in Iraq .

BAGHDAD, Iraq

Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the coalition's most wanted man in Iraq, was killed in an airstrike near Baquba, jubilant U.S. and Iraqi authorities announced Thursday.

Al-Zarqawi's death gives Iraq a chance to "turn the tide" in the fight against the nation's insurgency, President Bush said at the White House.

"The ideology of terror has lost one of its most visible and aggressive leaders," Bush said. "Zarqawi's death is a severe blow to al Qaeda."
"Zarqawi personally beheaded American hostages and other civilians in Iraq," Bush said. "Now Zarqawi has met his end and this violent man will never murder again."

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said al-Zarqawi's death will have "worldwide" effects. "Let there be no doubt the fact that he is dead is a significant victory in the battle against terrorism in that country, and I would say worldwide because he had interests well outside of Iraq."

U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell detailed the strike, saying two Air Force F-16s dropped two 500-pound bombs on a safe house near Baquba on Wednesday night.
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cmartin
Post Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:45 pm

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It's about time!
Now let's get that Bin Laden fellow.
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Elvis
Post Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:16 pm

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cmartin wrote:
It's about time!
Now let's get that Bin Laden fellow.


Must be fun sharing a jet-fighter with GWB! If you can hear me over the noise, what happens after you get Bin Laden?

Oh, I know... we go to DEFCON BLUE.

Green must come when GWB eats an Alberta burger on primetime TV.

The cows really are the final battle!



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Post Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:04 pm

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Al-Zarqawi's body was taken to a secure location, visually identified by "scars and tattoos consistent with what had been reported and what we knew about him," and by fingerprints, Caldwell said. "We have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Zarqawi was in the house. It was 100 percent identification."


Wait a minute! You mean this guy had –two- 500 pound bombs dropped on him and they were still able to identify his body?!!

Absolutely astounding!

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Post Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:36 pm

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I saw the news film and Mull is onto something, it's exactly the first thing I thought. How c/would there be anything left to identify? If a plane crashing into the pentagon can disintegrate the entire jet plane, including the indestructable little black box, how's it possible mere bodies could withstand two (2) bombs of that magnitude? Ohhh the mysteries of terrorism and those who perpetuate it.

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Elvis
Post Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:51 pm

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C'mon, people that die in clean mega-bombings always look so pretty, except for a bloody nostril or two.

Next thing you guys will be trying to convince us is that they know where Osama is (be it cave, morgue fridge, or bunkered on a ranch in Texas) and they're just saving him... for the right time of public death.

Paraphrasing a comedian awhile back...

"this is the 643th time we've killed the number 2 man."

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:58 am

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The enlarged picture on view of AZ's dead face shows no visible burn. How is that possible?

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cmartin
Post Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:33 am

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The enlarged picture on view of AZ's dead face shows no visible burn. How is that possible?

Somebody's been watching too much CSI .

Didn't the pictures only show his head?
Perhaps they found the rest of him a few feet away!
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:46 am

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Didn't the pictures only show his head?
Perhaps they found the rest of him a few feet away!


Truly.

A head here, an arm there. “An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth… .”

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:21 am

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Somebody's been watching too much CSI .

Didn't the pictures only show his head?
cm unless cnn is telling you something different, the last I heard was that the head is where the face is located. Rolling Eyes

The point was and still is; there are no visible burns on the face of the head in the picture. (and if you look closely enough, the picture shown to the world is primarily of the face). And the question was and still is: how is that possible?

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How a video-store clerk and small-time crook reinvented himself as America’s nemesis in Iraq.

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On a cold and blustery evening in December 1989, Huthaifa Azzam, the teenage son of the legendary Jordanian-Palestinian mujahideen leader Sheikh Abdullah Azzam, went to the airport in Peshawar, Pakistan, to welcome a group of young men. All were new recruits, largely from Jordan, and they had come to fight in a fratricidal civil war in neighboring Afghanistan—an outgrowth of the CIA-financed jihad of the 1980s against the Soviet occupation there.


How the military used their PSYOP to play up Zarqawi's role in Iraq.

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The U.S. military says intelligence agents pinpointed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi by following his spiritual adviser and deputy to a safehouse in Iraq.

Major General William Caldwell says the militant's adviser was identified by "somebody inside the al-Zarqawi network."

All the reports say that Abu Abdul-Rahman al-Iraqi was the spiritual adviser (whatever that is) who was followed and killed along with Zarqawi but yet the offical al-Qaida statement confirming Zarqawi's death was signed by Abu Abdul-Rahman al-Iraqi!?

But I understand that the $25 million will be paid to one of Zarqawi's insiders. So that at least is a good sign that even the people in the tribal jihadist Middle East know the value of the dollar and are capable of prioritizing value! Razz

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cmartin
Post Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:09 pm

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cm unless cnn is telling you something different, the last I heard was that the head is where the face is located.

I wasn't claiming that his face was somewhere other then his head.
Smart-Ass.

Anyway, no matter how many bits and pieces they found the guy in, or how mangled you think his face should be, the guy is finally dead!
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:56 pm

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This transcript and video should be required reading/viewing for all. You gotta feel for the reporters and public trying to get a straight answer.


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QUESTION: Will an autopsy be performed?

CALDWELL: They, in fact, have done some analysis of his body. I'll have to make sure I have the proper definition of what was done with Zarqawi's body, but I know they have done some kind of analysis. And I'll get that for you.

QUESTION: Two quick questions. How can you be sure that Zarqawi died as a result of the wounds he received from the explosion without a formal autopsy?

And secondly, when you were cleaning him up did you have to Photoshop his face or anything to make him more recognizable for the picture?

CALDWELL: To take your second question first, yes, his face was very, very bloodied. And we made a conscious decision that if we were going to take photographs of him and make them available publicly like we did in the press conference that we were going clean him up.

Despite the fact that this person actually had no regard for human life, we were not going to treat him in the same manner. And so, they did clean his face up for the shots that were shown publicly.

As far as the autopsy goes, I know that there was, quote, "an autopsy" done, but I'll go back and make sure it was performed by the certified kind of person that we're supposed to have so we can call it an autopsy and make sure I'm exactly correct before I tell you that.

QUESTION: I was unclear whether you said it was six including Zarqawi that was killed, or whether Zarqawi makes seven.

And secondly, was there any plastic surgery used to reconstruct his face, to make it more presentable before yesterday's news conference?

CALDWELL: That number is six, which includes Zarqawi. So it's not seven, but just six total.

There was none that I know of. I'll verify that by going back and asking the question, but I did not see it stated anywhere that, in fact, that had occurred, so I don't think it did. But I'll verify that for you.

QUESTION: General, everybody's asking the question how possibly could he have survived seemingly intact after two 500-pound bombs were dropped on that facility.

Was he outside? Was he thrown clear? Is there any visibility on why he was able to survive those two bombs?

CALDWELL: Well, that's the exact same question I asked today when I sat down with several Air Force officers, to include some that were associated with the whole operation.

And they assured me that there are cases when people, in fact, can survive even an attack like that on a building structure. Obviously, the other five in the building did not, but he did for some reason.

And we do not know -- and I've looked through the report -- as to whether or not it was because he might have been right outside or whatever. We just don't have that granularity.


This guy's a frickin' general? Seems he only read a report... but he's not too sure what he actually read.

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SharynS
Post Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:08 pm

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I wasn't claiming that his face was somewhere other then his head.
Smart-Ass.
What were you claiming cm? And before you respond please take the time to actually read the entire exchange so that you have a good grasp of what you said. Thanks eh.


General: yeah yeah, thrown clear, he landed square in our jeep, all in one piece I tell you. We could tell right off we'd killed ourselves the big one. yeah yeah we couldn't wait to tell the boss..

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Timing is everything. And to the managers of the Iraq War, perception has always trumped reality. From the beginning it was a war of media stunts—the attempt to assassinate Saddam with 50 cruise missiles before the invasion, the Shock and Awe, the bringing down of the statues, Jessica Lynch, Saddam in the hole, the purple fingered Iraq election and many events staged for media consumption.


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