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| GRUMPY |
Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:57 pm
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Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 |
Here is an example of the kind of people Safeway is hireing now a days. Like I stated in another post, we had six people quit two weeks ago.
Now I hear that we had two c.c. "getting it on" in the parking lot . The male was on the clock. Heres the kicker, he is still employed . Wow  , if only I would of known this before I got married . 
Here is another example. A gal in the bakery has been showwing her nipple rings to her co-workers . Why doesn't this stuff happen on my shift  ?
We also have employees that have called in sick over ten times and it is five months into the new year. All these employees are still employed and never even got a write up. Steve Burd, you are getting what you are paying for . Now if we could just start showing (.)(.), we would get great scores on our shops. The lines might be a little longer though. We would get something hangin' out there for the ladies too. There will probably be more stories to come. I will keep you posted. |
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| catbear955 |
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:51 am
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Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Upland, Ca. |
LMAOROF 
Hiya, Grumpy. Aren't they often a piece of work? So here's the problem---how is the company going to get these folks to be professional? How do we get them to come up to a higher standard, a better work ethic,and treat their jobs with more respect?It doesn't seem to matter what kind of example we make of ourselves---we're lame! They could give a f*ck about my 30 year award, they don't see a future in the grocery industry (or anywhere else);what do they care about pensions? All they see on the news is that companies are eliminating them. Even their parents don't have health insurance!The world is going to h*ll in a hand basket as far as most of these kids see it---and we have less than a year to show them differently. What---us? Yeah, us. We stood up to the employers and got the crappy contract that we're all sufering under---and if they want to get anything better from these companies, we have to stand together to get it.The companies are counting on the disillusioned youth of the second tier to take a small raise and some crappy bennies and sell us down the river. Sound familiar? These people have been abused by our employers for long enough! Why should they get less than we do for the same work? Why shouldn't they get good benefits and vacations and holiday pay and pensions? Why should they remain the tier that made Steve Burd richer? (That's right, he's riding you bareback into his retirement---where's your goods?) Because we needed to get back to our livelihoods,we agreed to some concessions---but not to the crappy conditions that the second tier has had to endure! They have seen grievance after grievance won, they have seen checks for back pay, and they need to hear that there is a chance for all of us to gain even more if we stick together. The second tier has seen the union squeeze the turnip and witnessed the blood---those who stuck it out,anyway. My youngest is going to turn 19 in June, and will have to work and go to school. Many of his friends are taking Starbucks jobs---and so did he. They have a package that is ideal for kids to work their way through school; he also works for a record label, with few perks and no bennies. These are young, healthy people who won't use up much medical---and they won't stay on after graduation. (Do you have any idea how many Starbucks people train on Von's nickel, and then quit to go to the real deal?) Anyway, I talk to his friends all the time, some of whom work in UFCW member jobs, and they don't want to stay around anywhere they can't make "bank".Here in SoCal they can go to "In and Out" and work just as unglamorously and hard and make more money---with a lighter attitude because they know they're being used ahead of time! That burger company expects these guys to move on; they want the kids to go to college and get off the payroll! They tell them it's a great job while they get their education, and a grind if they don't. We have to change the way we look at our Tier II co-workers, because we need them on board if we're going to make any gains at all next year! They deserve to be rewarded for taking one for the team; the company owes them. We need to help them get up to speed, and make them into the kind of workers who have a little pride. We need to elevate them the way our retirees did for us---we have to recruit them;educate and encourage them. Not just make fun of them. _________________ ...a dream lives on forever... |
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| Laboryes |
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:14 am
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Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1967 |
Quote: Now I hear that we had two c.c. "getting it on" in the parking lot . The male was on the clock. Heres the kicker, he is still employed . Wow , if only I would of known this before I got married .
Here is another example. A gal in the bakery has been showwing her nipple rings to her co-workers . Why doesn't this stuff happen on my shift ? Wow! Grump sounds like "Life on the Mountain" is really starting to liven up! Next thing you'll see ol'e Steve Turd putting up a pole and a stage in his stores just so he could get his hands on some of those (.)(.) tips!
Catbear is right about trying to educate the new two-tier if we just throw up our hands and give up we are just cutting our own throats! Never give up Grump! Inform & educate! One member at a time! _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn |
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| GRUMPY |
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:02 pm
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Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 |
Whoa guys, I think you read me wrong. I was not really making fun of the these people, hell, you don't think that I wouldn't be doing the same. I was really trying to say, look at the way the two tier employee looks at this job. I agree with you CB, that we need these people for future negotiaitions.
I really think it is funny that we have a "two tier" management job too. Look at the mgr. of old and compare to the new. The carrot for those guys has gotten smaller and the new mgr. are running faster to try and reach it. "Thats like wiping before you poop, it just don't make since." 
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| yankeebythewater |
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:32 pm
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Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 128 |
I have to question - how were these children raised? I understand they may have been product of two parents working, hello - does that qualify 'getting it on' or showing 'a nipple ring'.
If there is a god, I hope she/he can teach this generation some morals. I hope it is not a fallen generation. _________________ A Working Class Hero Is Something To Be ~ John Lennon |
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| catbear955 |
Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 4:20 pm
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Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 136 Location: Upland, Ca. |
I agree with the RLD assessment---Retail Leadership Development, my *ss! How about Really Lame Dopes? Or maybe Risky Loser Doofuses? That second tier of mgt. is pitiful! They start to sweat if they don't see their manual nearby.
Now I know how all the grown up doctors felt about Doogie Howser,M.D.---only he had talent.Some of these candidates come out with milk on their chins, still wet behind the ears, and no feel for the grocery biz. Do I answer their questions? Only if they're members of the bargaining unit---scabs can "look it up".(" Gee, I'm not really sure about that---you have the most current information from your recent training...") The company is creating a situation where no job is comfy---they're churning out these anti-union clones to replace all and any managers who might have a heart. Watch for more sudden "retirements" as Safeway moves into the next phase of churning the management pool; will cream or curdle rise to the top? Yessir, I predict more cheese than butter---and soon.These trainees are green, and not at all smooth. The rigidity of the training parameters, when many of these candidates have no grocery experience, works to our advantage in the stores. They also have no experience with contract campaigns, or labor law---I say it's time to start f'n with them for next year.I've already had a couple of "you can't do that here" warnings from RLD's who don't know me---I usually say, "Am I in WalMart? These are my fellow union members and we're discussing some emerging issues---possible grievances---and you wouldn't want to make things worse for your boss, would you? I promise we won't compromise your service," and they just walk away. It's actually more fun just to stop talking as soon as they walk up---and then meet up on another aisle, and do the same again as they approach. (What are we dicussing,anyway? And who is the jr. g-man going to tell?) The second tier employees have to come on board with us---against them. And if we can elevate these new non-mgt. workers to our level of understanding---and we will---look out,Safeway!We're going to have our own "Lifestyle" campaign. Restoring the American dream---one contract at a time! _________________ ...a dream lives on forever... |
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| Jeff-Hulk-Hemp |
Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:48 am
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Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 448 |
Well I think with next contract talks coming up I call for nationwide pickets of all Safeway stores if there are problems .In my store management is taking union jobs meanwhile the unions come in and file grievances on Management for taking union jobs .But listren to this .Management is running off copies of schedules once the Reps request it .
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| unionnow |
Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 6:07 pm
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Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 695 Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail |
We ran out of second tier employees at our store.
Management has asked the crew to work overtime to do the carts of go backs that keep piling up because they cannot hire cc's either. $30 an hour to do go backs. What they do is hire checkers and use them as cc's then step them up to the checkstand when needed. Problem is gas is so high and the hours are so tight no one can afford to drive to work and work the crappy shifts they give out. Figure this for the first 9 months: $8.50 and hour times 28 hours a week is (28 times 4 weeks times $8.50 an hour grosses $952 a month. Subtract 15% for taxes and then minus $125 dues and intitation to the union every month for the first 9 months. That leaves $684 a month net for 112 hours worked for the month. Your working rate is 6.10 an hour minus gas and auto. No busses come nowhere near where we work so you have to figure gas conservatively at $8.00 a day. Its more, most travel over 60 miles round trip to work and back every shift. Plug that in. $8 times say 4 days a week equals 32 a week times 4 weeks which comes to $128 dollars a month in gas. Its more when you figure wear and tear insurance and the rest. $684 minus travel at $128 leaves $556 a month to live on. That's a whole 4.96 cents an hour.
CB is right about management. Its turn and burn them also. Its just another way to save money. The store directors could give a shit less than us. I haven't seen mine yet. They come in at 9 and leave at 4. Its great. I could call in sick for thirty days straight and they don't give a shit. My new goal in life is to burn through a whole management team without ever seening them. The end is coming for them soon so I may make it. 
_________________ “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1-2) |
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| GRUMPY |
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:12 pm
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Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 |
This is a little off subject, but thought people would get a kick out of this one.
Yesterday at work, one of our mgr. told us about a conference call they participated in with all mgr. and district mgr. The focus was on out of stocks and how to take care of it. To make a long story short, their idea to solve the problem was to have mgr. go to other stores and buy the product and return to their own store and put it on the shelves. What the .... is that ? This is going to solve what ? I guess the mgr. will go to the competeter and buy from them and help there sales too. Oh, I'm sorry, I failed to state that this is SAFEWAY I am talking about .
I have to go change my shorts, I just laughed so hard I pissed myself . A lot of us have been doing this lately .
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| SharynS |
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:52 am
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Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 2939 Location: the 'puter |
Quote: their idea to solve the problem was to have mgr. go to other stores and buy the product and return to their own store and put it on the shelves... It is hilarious, no it is pathetic watching hapless, helpless middle management trying to keep a face on his pretend little corporate crumb. Even if it means shopping at the competitors to put product on the shelf to cover the kzillion service shortfalls that concessions have created - that is what they will do. Overhead be damned!
_________________ Free speech is the whole thing, the whole ball game. Free speech is life itself. - Salman Rushdie |
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| unionnow |
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:38 am
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Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 695 Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail |
The Safeway Nor Cal president came in the other day and forced everyone on the floor to pin on gift cards.
It is the most sickening thing I have ever seen. Everyone is walking around with gift cards pinned to them as a sales promotion. Turning you employees into racks is one of the most the most dehumanizing thing I have ever seen this company accomplish. Another corporate bonehead idea to die on the vine. _________________ “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap. (Isaiah 17:1-2) |
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| SharynS |
Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:08 am
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Tell them you're not a billboard UN, when they pay you to be a billboard then you'll be a billboard.
And don't forget to advice the fucktards about the cost to repair the damage those friggin' pins do to clothing and the safety hazard when they spring open. How do they suppose customers will feel about blood dripping from an open wound onto the groceries? So unless they're paying for the uniform and covering medical costs then again - just tell them that billboard is not part of the job description. Or maybe better still, wear it pinned to the ass. And when all else fails the 'take it thank them lose it' method works like a hot damn! _________________ Free speech is the whole thing, the whole ball game. Free speech is life itself. - Salman Rushdie |
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| GRUMPY |
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:15 pm
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Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 198 |
Just when you think you have seen it all, crap like this happens. I go to work today and a message is passed along to me. A kid that was FIRED a few months back will be in to face the store. I just about pooped my pants laughing so hard. This is the situation the stores/company have put themselves in. Re- hire somebody that didn't show up to work in the first place(thats why he was fired), went to work at Taco Bell, got fired from there, and here we are for round two.
Two more new hires quit last week. One worked a half of his shift and quit, the other called 15 min. before shift started and said he had found another job. Steve Burd, you are brilliant. How much longer until the poor imigrant workers take over in the stores ? If we could only figure out how to teach them english so we could have them kiss all the customers ass with this bogus customer service crap. I think this is what Burd must be thinking .
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| Laboryes |
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:02 pm
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Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 1967 |
Quote: How much longer until the poor imigrant workers take over in the stores ? Hey Grumpy at least these poor imigrants that work 2 & 3 jobs just to get by know how to stick together in solidarity and mass in the streets to make their voice heard. Work a couple of jobs and still can find time to mass in the streets,they got my respect! Most of the people that have been born and raised in this country can't pull themselves away from boob tube and "American Idol" long enough to get involved long enough to fight for their own future! How many times have we heard "I want change but why can't someone else do it"??? And hell at least we can get the imigrants to show up for work! _________________ "When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive." Howard Zinn |
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| GRUMPY |
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:19 pm
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**BEWARE OF RAPIST WORKING AT SAFEWAY ON HOMESTEAD RD** (santa clara)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply to: pers-175867966@craigslist.org Date: 2006-06-26, 10:12PM PDT THERE IS A RAPIST, WITH 2 CONVICTIONS OF RAPE, WORKING AT SAFEWAY ON HOMESTEAD NEXT TO LONGS. I WAS CHECKING OUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN I FOUND HIM ON THE MEGANS LAW WEBSITE. WWW.MEGANSLAW.CA.GOV WHY WOULD SAFEWAY HIRE SUCH A THREATENING PERSON TO WORK FOR THEM, DO THEY NOT DO BACKGROUND CHECKS??? I AM CALLING SAFEWAY TOMORROW TO VOICE MY CONCERN AND COMPLAINT. NO SECOND CHANCES FOR THOSE WHO HAVE REPEATEDLY RAPED. TWICE IS 2 TIMES TOO MANY. VOICE YOUR OPINION, CALL SAFEWAY AND TELL THEM YOU WONT SHOP WHERE THEY HIRE REPEAT OFFENDER RAPISTS, OR ANY SEXUAL PREDATOR. 408-248-0563 Steve Burd, is this what you wanted ? |
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