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John Briley
Post Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:41 am

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Union Letter Says Most Save Mart Stores Lose Money

http://m.sacbee.com/sacramento/db_99548/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=TKjYJQlI

SacBee / 7/20/12 (4:06PM)
By: Dale Kasler

Most Save Marts Lose Money, Union Says, Urging Contract Approval

http://m.sacbee.com/sacramento/db_99246/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=tNbRDRqw&full=true#display

SacBee / 7/21/12 (12:00AM)
By: Dale Kasler
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Urging their members to accept wage and benefit concessions, grocery union leaders said Save Mart Supermarkets is losing money at most of its stores.

In a 32-page booklet sent to its members this week, United Food and Commercial Workers Local 8 said concessions are necessary to stabilize the Modesto grocer's business. The union shared a copy of the agreement with The Bee on Friday.
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The union agreed to several concessions, including the "suspension of premium pay for Sunday and night work." Store clerks in certain classifications will have their pay frozen at current levels instead of getting scheduled raises.

Save Mart agreed to increase the amount it pays for health insurance, by 30 cents an hour, the union said. Workers will continue to get health insurance without paying premiums, but they'll start paying premiums for their family members. According to the UFCW, Save Mart dropped its proposal to eliminate health care for retirees.
It is absolutely pathetic that Lind, Loveall and Sharpe, a.k.a. "The Solidarity Alliance", has to solicit the help from the SacBee to assist our Leader's "Seal the Deal" for their Savemart / Lucky Employer buddies!

Some interesting information from the article.
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Workers will continue to get health insurance without paying premiums, but they'll start paying premiums for their family members.
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According to the UFCW, Save Mart dropped its proposal to eliminate health care for retirees.
Couldn't find any information regarding the above any where in the documents previously posted.

Fortunately, we have have Local 5's Mail Ballot / Contract Ratification Material Document(s.

Check out the following section:

Benefit Plan Issues and Design.

(5th paragraph)
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In addition to small weekly premium sharing for dependents starting in 2013 and higher retiree premiums, .......
You will note that not one Union Leader has the courage to spell out the specific dollar amount for the "small weekly premium sharing" for dependents starting in 2013, or the specific dollar amount for "Higher Retiree Premiums".
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unionnow
Post Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:41 pm

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Its ugly but I guess it could have been worse. It is nearing the end for unionized retail in California.

The only thing holding them in is the lack of a "right to work law" in California. Wonder what the next set of consessions will look like?

I am sure there is a "me to" in there as well if another player does better.

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John Briley
Post Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:30 pm

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Fortunately, we have have Local 5's Mail Ballot Contract Ratification Material Documents.

Check out the following section:

Benefit Plan Issues and Design.

(5th paragraph):
In addition to small weekly premium sharing for dependents starting in 2013 and higher retiree premiums, .......

You will note that not one Union Leader has the courage to spell out the specific dollar amount for the "small weekly premium sharing" for dependents starting in 2013, or the specific dollar amount for "Higher Retiree Premiums".


For Your Information and Review: Here is Local 5's twenty (20) page Booklet (Lucky-Save Mart Contract Ratification Materials Enclosed) recently sent to all Local 5 Lucky / Save Mart Members.Please makes sure and read this entire document very carefully!

"The Benefit Plan Issues and Design" and the "Health Care FAQ's" Sections, gives you a "peak under the cover's" as to "some" of the unanswered questions relating to H&W.

Additionally, please read very carefully President Lind's letter to Local 5's Savemart / Lucky Members!

I will critique his letter later, for now, I will leave you with the following two (2) paragraphs.
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When we negotiated our last contract with Lucky-Save Mart in 2007 the dynamics were much different than they are today. We took advantage of a booming economy and the company's desire to convert recently purchased Albertson's stores to its existing contract model and negotiated the highest wage increases and the best overall settlement in the history of the UFCW.
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Save Mart began the 2011-2012 negotiations by pleading financial hardship and demanding devasting and permanent wage and benefit cuts with the threat to close more stores absent financial relief. The UFCW demanded and was granted a thorough financial review of Save Mart by the union presidents along with an independent auditor an unusual move for a privately-held company. The audit revealed the serious nature of the company's financial situation and made it clear that absent relief, the closure of dozens of more stores was likely along with the potential loss of jobs for thousands of our members.

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Scott Schroeder
Post Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:53 am

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John Briley wrote:
For Your Information and Review: Here is Local 5's twenty (20) page Booklet (Lucky-Save Mart Contract Ratification Materials Enclosed) recently sent to all Local 5 Lucky / Save Mart Members.
Here's Local 8's spin on the Save Mart deal. You'll notice(compared to the Local 5 booklet) that Local 8 has "NO" list of scheduled meetings for members to attend to ask questions and get answers about the new proposed Save Mart contract.

Part 1: p 1- 9

http://www.uncharted.ca/images/users/ssigurdur/ufcw8_mail_in_vote_pkg1.pdf

Part 2: p 10 -12 and 23- 27 ( p. 13-22 "bread and butter" images removed)

http://www.uncharted.ca/images/users/ssigurdur/ufcw8_mail_in_vote_pkg2.pdf

Part 3: p. 28- 31

http://www.uncharted.ca/images/users/ssigurdur/ufcw8_mail_in_vote_pkg3.pdf

Once again president Loveall doesn't have the courage to face the Local 8 members wrath with this concessionary deal. We're told in the booklet to...
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Contact your District Representative if you have any questions.
I've been told by numerous members that have questioned our "District Representative" when they see him(not a luxury us night crew grunts get) that when questioned regarding the new contract our District Representative's consistent reply has been...
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"I don't know"
Well, so much for an informed membership! All by design folks. Rolling Eyes

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unionnow
Post Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:50 pm

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They sure make it sound like a good deal. I love how they package it with a bunch of smiling faces from the clerks in the field.

I wonder it they will still be smiling a year from now? The big things I see that result in paycuts is paying more for healthcare and if you are a full timer you likely to get your hours cut.

If fulltimers get their hours cut then what happens to the other part timers? How does this equate to an "opportunity for more hours"?

Where does it go next? What happens if the others cut a better or worse deal?

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Post Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:22 pm

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Scott Schroeder
Post Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:29 pm

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John Briley wrote:
"The Benefit Plan Issues and Design" and the "Health Care FAQ's" Sections, gives you a "peak under the cover's" as to "some" of the unanswered questions relating to H&W.
I was told this morning by a co-worker who spoke with our "District Representative" that retirees will now have to pay $245 a month to retain their healthcare.

Why can he quote this number but it's not quoted or laid out in the Save Mart Contract Ratification Materials?

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Scott Schroeder
Post Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:25 pm

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As I'm viewing the attached links I just caught something that is a bit disturbing!

Here's the link of the UFCW Local 5, 8 & 648 Settlement Agreement provided by IL.

http://www.uncharted.ca/images/users/ssigurdur/settlement_agreement_ufcw5_8_648.pdf

Notice this document comes with attached "Side Letters" or "Letters of Understanding"

Now here's the link to the The Local 8 Voice of Action "Special Edition Tentative Collective Bargaining Agreement"

http://www.uncharted.ca/images/users/ssigurdur/ufcw8_mail_in_vote_pkg3.pdf

I'm not seeing the "signed" Letters of Understanding in the Local 8 packet sent out to members. If I'm missing something someone please correct me!

How can the Local 8 members completely understand what their voting on if the documents sent to them are incomplete?

Someone please double check to make sure I'm not missing something.

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John Briley
Post Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:36 pm

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I'm not seeing the "signed" Letters of Understanding in the Local 8 packet sent out to members. If I'm missing something someone please correct me!



Scott you are not missing anything! Local 8 did not print their side letters in their slick piece??

Local 8 is signatory to a total of five (5) Letters of Understanding.

Ironically, Local 5 omitted two (2) of their Letters of Understanding from their slick piece.

1. It is understood the use of Service Specialists shall be subject to the mutual agreement of the Union and the Employer,........

2. During the term of the Stabilization Agreement, the parties agree store shelves may be faced by Service Specialists only with existing product on these shelves..........

Local 5 is signatory to a total of four (4) Letters of Understanding.

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I was told this morning by a co-worker who spoke with our "District Representative" that retirees will now have to pay $245 a month to retain their healthcare.

Why can he quote this number but it's not quoted or laid out in the Save Mart Contract Ratification Materials?


Interesting, I've been told that some Reps from within Local 5 have been throwing out $300.00 per month that Retiree's will have to pay to retain their Health Care?????

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Fortunately, we have have Local 5's Mail Ballot Contract Ratification Material Documents.

Check out the following section:

Benefit Plan Issues and Design.

(5th paragraph):
In addition to small weekly premium sharing for dependents starting in 2013 and higher retiree premiums, .......

You will note that not one Union Leader has the courage to spell out the specific dollar amount for the "small weekly premium sharing" for dependents starting in 2013, or the specific dollar amount for "Higher Retiree Premiums".



Additionally, in another portion of the Local 5 "Slick Piece" under the Heading, "Health Care FAQ's",.....

Question: Why was health care for retirees such an important topic in negotiations?


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Health care expenditures have grown for both actives and retired members and their families, and at the same time retiree health care continues to comprise a huge portion of the total cost of the Trust.

This is why some employers tried to eliminate health care for retirees altogether. UFCW Local 5 is committed to restoring stability to the system so retirees can continue to have affordable health care in the future.

Retiree's will be required to pay higher monthly premiums, however this contribution will be lower than other union retirees and vastly lower than retirees' in general.


Ok, so we all know that not one Union Leader has had the courage to come forward with any specific dollar amount for the "new" additional Health Care Costs.

Speaking as a Retiree, lets assume for a moment that the new higher premium that I will be required to pay is between $245.00 - $300.00 per month to retain Retiree H&W.

Currently, for my wife and I we pay:
Medical= $70.00
Vision= $16.00
Total= $86.00 (monthly H&W payment)

You do the math?

Once again, so many unanswered questions for Retiree's and how the New Deal will impact them.

Clearly, Lind, Lovall and Sharpe, a.k.a. "The Solidarity Alliance", continue on a daily basis, to demonstrate their Failed Leadership here in Northern California!
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My friend of Misery
Post Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:00 am

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So If memory serves correctly, to my understanding..FT and PT employees will loose all their holidays except for Christmas, Thanksgiving, new years and 4th of July.

As far as work hours go...

50% of Full-timers will be reduced to Part-time (even though they are still considered FT.) guaranteed 32hrs. a week or laid off.

Majority of clerks currently Part-time will be guaranteed an minimum work week of 32hrs. Instead of 24hrs. a week.

This isn't good. It will be the Full-timers fighting to vote no, while the Part-timers seeing this as their gain because currently they are only guaranteed 24hrs. a week. It will be the part-timers Vs. the Full-timers.

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It will be the Full-timers fighting to vote no, while the Part-timers seeing this as their gain
An interesting twist.

The race to the bottom began with ufcw having to sell the contract to full-timers as they were the majority. Contracts with massive concessions for new hires and a big carrot for full timers.

Part-timers are now the majority so the carrot obviously goes to them.

Pitting member against member - brilliant strategy. if you're a union buster that is.

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Laboryes
Post Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:00 pm

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UFCW Local 8's Voting Procedure

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wobbbly1
Post Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:11 pm

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Hello ALL, I'm new here... Something I would like to ask on this... "so what would the workers do???

SharynS wrote:
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...industry stabilization agreement...
So not only do we do all the heavy lifting, we've now agreed to do the employers' job, to pay for their incompetence? Any employer who can't make ends meet in the market should not be in the market. The market is not going anywhere anytime soon, perhaps it's high time to let these losers wither and die to make room for competent and responsible retailers. According to them they're barely hanging on, the compassion thing would be to pull the plug. Put them out of their misery once and for all.


Do we just put the workers out of work??? Shocked

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wobbbly1
Post Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:27 pm

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Hello All,

I see a lot of ANGER, SARCASM and VENOMOUS ATTACKS on the SaveMart/Lucky & UFCW's "New Deal" Exposed... My question is WHAT ARE WE EXPOSING...

My real question is WHAT WOULD YOU DO? I saw someonne else earlier today, had said, let's put these retailers out of business... that - that would be the compasionate thing to do, to make way for more responsible retailers...

And, I can see where people would not be happy about these contracts (BTW-I am leaving a partime UPS job for a grocery job here soon)...

But, my question is WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE-OR WHAT WOULD YOU DO to make things different??? Besides rhetoric and UNVBELIEVABLE CLAIMS OF HAVING MAGIC WANDS...

What would you do???

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