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John Briley
Post Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:23 pm

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Virtual union town hall Dec.5 2012

Ron Lind "We will not through our retirees under the bus"



I was in attendance at the virtual town hall meeting held in Salinas last night (Monday, 12/5/11) and heard the same comment from UFCW Local 5 President Ron Lind.

I am very concerned as to the position from UFCW Local Union President's Jacque Loveall and Michael Sharpe (Local's 8 & 648) "if" they are also in agreement "We Will Not Throw The Retirees Under The Bus", as is UFCW Local 5's President Ron Lind..

My concerns / suspicions are based on the lack of any meaningful updates coming out of or from Local 8 and or Local 648. If you look at Local 8's website, Loveall is running "dual messages".

If you go to Local 8's Negotiation Website....

http://www.ufcw8.org/index.cfm?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page=Negotiations20Update

Local 8 has their "Your Bread and Butter B.S." on the top half of the site and below with a "Contract Extended to November 8th" article still posted.

Then Local 8 is running their "Your Bread and Butter" nonsense here...

http://yourbreadandbutter.com/news/industry-discussions

What is even more egregious regarding Local 8's "Your Bread and Butter" website is their ludicrous "Report Card" overview of various Employer's withing their jurisdiction.

Specifically, after reviewing Local 5's most recent Negotiations Update #10..

http://ufcw5.org/ENegotiationsUpdate10BPDF.pdf

Quote:
Employers Make Unwarranted Demand for Health and Welfare Concessions:

At negotiations on November 29 Raley's, Safeway and Save Mart made an initial health and welfare proposal that would seriously diminish the membership's access to quality, affordable health care and in the case of
Retirees eliminate it entirely.


Now one would think that any UFCW Employer(s) who would contemplate and or propose to eliminate Retiree Health and Welfare Benefits would not continue to receive such "ass kissing" and "glowing" Report Card evaluations from any UFCW Local Union.

Right???

Unfortunately, Local 8 continues to "kiss the ass" of the following Employer's who have recently proposed to eliminate Retiree Health Benefits..

Go Figure???

Raleys:
http://yourbreadandbutter.com/news/employers/raleys

http://yourbreadandbutter.com/news/employers/nob-hill

http://yourbreadandbutter.com/news/employers/bel-air

Safeway:
http://yourbreadandbutter.com/news/employers/safeway

Save Mart:
http://yourbreadandbutter.com/news/employers/save-mart

http://yourbreadandbutter.com/news/employers/lucky-stores

And then there is UFCW Local 648.....

I have no clue what is going on in that Local Union..

Does any Local 648 Member have any information as to what "if" any Negotiation Updates are coming from their Local Union Leadership??

http://www.ufcw648.org/
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John Briley
Post Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:56 pm

Joined: 21 Nov 2007
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I was recently informed that "allegedly" during the "live" UFCW Local 5, Virtual Town Hall Meeting held at their San Jose office on Monday, December 5, 2011, various individuals held up applause signs at different times throughout the meeting....

For anyone in attendance at that meeting, is this information correct?



As I indicated before, I attended the Virtual Meeting at Local 5's Salinas office that evening and couldn't help notice at various times major hand clapping and cheering, taking place.

Assuming the above is accurate....



No wonder I heard so much noise???????
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lucky75
Post Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:04 am

Joined: 09 Nov 2011
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No wonder I heard so much noise???????


I wonder when we will here some noise out of locals (#8 and #648). Retiree health care on the line and not a word.....Are they asleep over there?
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Laboryes
Post Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:56 pm

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
Posts: 1967
lucky75 wrote:


I wonder when we will here some noise out of locals (#8 and #648). Retiree health care on the line and not a word.....Are they asleep over there?


No lucky75 they're not asleep, there in the corporate bed! As long as the dues keep rolling in that's all they care about! You or your families living standards means nothing to them. Providing they're continued lavish lifestyles is #1 priority!!!

JB..."Applause Cards"??? Tell me this is a joke?

If this is true Ron Lind has been around the Loveal's way to long now and is now acting with parallel phoniness!

Local 5 members if this is truly the case all I can say is it's all down hill from here! My suggestion...organize yourselves or die a slow painful death of poverty.

Ron Lind you have now lowered yourself to Loveall lows! I hope you choke on all that members dues $$$

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"When people refuse to obey, then democracy comes alive."
Howard Zinn
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Truman
Post Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:23 pm

Joined: 27 Jan 2008
Posts: 27
Ley me acquaint you with what is coming out of Local 648...it will not take much of your time.

Members of Local 648 were mailed one "slick" in October entitled, "Solidarity is the key to keeping talks on track" i.e. the Local 8 piece refigured.

Members were mailed a similar "slick" in October letting members know that contract extensions had been agreed to through 8 Nov.

A one-page piece was released into the stores re the extension through 15 December.

...and that's about it.
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John Briley
Post Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:07 pm

Joined: 21 Nov 2007
Posts: 704
Looks like UFCW Local 8 has finally provided us with their take on the recent proposals from the Employer's.

Has anyone heard anything from UFCW Local 648????


Quote:


Local 8's Website Update:

http://yourbreadandbutter.com/news/industry-discussions

Proposals would end health care for retirees
and slash benefits for active members.

Several months into the most challenging contract negotiations in memory, Raley’s, Save Mart and Safeway have proposed drastic takeaways that would affect both active members and retirees.

The proposals vary in many ways, but they all include eliminating health care benefits for retirees and massive takeaways for the health care benefits of active members.

The severity of the employers’ proposals is unprecedented. They would reduce your take-home pay and diminish your rights on the job.

If the employers had their way, contract language affecting vacations and wage premiums for working evenings, Sundays and holidays would be made worse or eliminated.

One company has said it wants to slash overall employee costs by 10 percent. Another wants to bring costs back down to 2008 levels.

All of the employers say rollbacks are needed to help them compete against non-Union competitors that are making inroads into our region. They also point out that their profitability has been hurt by the sluggish economy.

We are interested in seeking creative and innovative ways to help the employers control costs while protecting the welfare of our members. At this point, however, the employers have not provided sufficient evidence that these drasticcuts are necessary for their survival.

The UFCW Solidarity Alliance of UFCW Local 5, UFCW 8-Golden State and UFCW Local 648 is determined to fight back against these proposals at the bargaining table. As always, the solidarity of our Union membership will be the key to our success.

You can help by shopping only at Union stores during this holiday season and throughout the year. Please tell your friends and family members to do the same.

Also, please volunteer for your Union’s programs to protect and increase the market share of Union employers. The job you save could be your own!

Keep in mind that it’s better to walk a picket line in front of a non-Union store while we are still collecting wages and benefits than it is to walk a picket line in front of your own store during a labor dispute.

Please contact your Local Union to learn how you can protect your wages, benefits and working conditions.

There is no substitute for sticking together!


Download PDF:
http://yourbreadandbutter.com/images/ufcw_solidarity-2.pdf



After reviewing Local 8's most recent update, my question concerning Local 8's position regarding the Retiree's still remains unanswered....

Quote:
I am very concerned as to the position from UFCW Local Union President's Jacque Loveall and Michael Sharpe (Local's 8 & 648) "if" they are also in agreement "We Will Not Throw The Retirees Under The Bus", as is UFCW Local 5's President Ron Lind..



In the event the UFCW Solidarity Alliance can not reach their objective....

Quote:
The UFCW Solidarity Alliance of UFCW Local 5, UFCW 8-Golden State and UFCW Local 648 is determined to fight back against these proposals at the bargaining table.


Then what???? What is their Plan going to be????

In the meantime during these negotiations, why doesn't the UFCW Solidarity Alliance start handbilling / informing the public as to the impact these proposals would have by ending health care for retirees and slashing benefits for active members.

Based on President Lind's comments at Local 5's Town Hall Meeting earlier this week, I would target the most aggressive Employer's who have demonstrated the most disdain towards our Active and Retiree UFCW Member's.

Raleys / Nob Hill and Save Mart!!!!!

BTW.... Raleys is also the largest "double-breasted" UFCW Employer in Northern Ca.

Until these Employer's take the UFCW serious, our Active Members and Retiree's will continue to get "screwed"!!!
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John Briley
Post Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:17 pm

Joined: 21 Nov 2007
Posts: 704
SF Becomes First US City To Top $10 Minimum Wage

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sf-becomes-first-us-city-084124973.html

AP / December 12, 2011
By: Beth Duff-Brown

Quote:
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- David Frias works two minimum-wage jobs to squeak by in one of the most expensive cities in America.

Come New Year's Day, he'll have a few more coins in his pocket as San Francisco makes history by becoming the first city in the nation to scale a $10 minimum wage. The city's hourly wage for its lowest-paid workers will hit $10.24, more than $2 above the California minimum wage and nearly $3 more than the working wage set by the federal government.



U.S. Dept of Labor / Minimum Wage Laws in the States- January 1, 2011

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm
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John Briley
Post Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:28 pm

Joined: 21 Nov 2007
Posts: 704
Quote:

UFCW Local 8

Solidarity Alliance Newsletter

December 15, 2011

http://www.ufcw8.org/Docs/UFCW-Solidarity-12-15-11.pdf


Additionally.....

Quote:


Contract Extended to January 24, 2012 for Raleys / Nob Hill..

Contract Extended to February 25, 2012 for Safeway / Vons and Save Mart / Luckys..


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lucky75
Post Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:31 pm

Joined: 09 Nov 2011
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Contract Extended To Jan.24 For Raleys/Nob hill...

Contract Extended To Feb.25 For Safeway/Vons Savemart/Lucky


Very interesting...Have they picked a target? It would be much harder for Safeway and Savemart to lock out if they were still talking and had not passed their extension date a full month later than Raleys/Nob Hill.

If you believe Raleys/Nob hill an action aimed at them could destroy an already weak company. A company that is taking the hardest line at the contract table.

Also let us not forget with Safeway/Vons and Savemart/Lucky still working customers will have an union store to shop in as well as they will still be adding to the health trust for every hour worked...
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John Briley
Post Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:03 pm

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If you believe Raleys/Nob hill an action aimed at them could destroy an already weak company. A company that is taking the hardest line at the contract table.



UFCW Local 8 / I.U. have created a monster in Raleys...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raleys

Since Local 8 has the majority of Raley Stores in Northern Ca., the mere fact that they have allowed this company to operate Double-Breasted for so many years is unconscienable!!

We have the smallest of the three (3) Employer's here in Northern Ca. taking the "hardest line" during these 2011 Food Negotiationis, is simply astounding to me.

Nob Hill, also owned by Raleys has over 20 stores throughout No. Ca. covered by a Union Contract wall-to wall. With the exception of 1 non-union Nob Hill Store in Newman Ca. (Local 8's jurisdiction), I believe.

So here is my question to the Big 3 UFCW Leaders @ Local's 5,8 & 648. Why are we not applying some pressure on the Raley / Nob Hill Stores throughout No. Ca. right now? We could at least start acting like a Labor Union and inform the public about the current proposals on the table and how they will severly impact our Active Members / Retirees.

Additionally, it is my experience that with the current proposal on the table to eliminate Retiree Medical Benefits, this issue alone would create our customers to become engaged immediately. It is amazing how quickly our customers respond to any issues that they perceive to harm "any" Retiree(s).

Once again, let us wait and see "if", the UFCW really does have a "Paper Tiger Reputation"?

http://forums.uncharted.ca/viewtopic.php?t=1753&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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Bill Sable
Post Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:33 pm

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
Posts: 272
In terms of the public a large and its customers in particular, RALEY'S has just thrown itself off the cliff and into the deep. Demands as those they are making, if made public, will drive the most of the public right into the arms of its competitors.

It is remniscent of the contract situation in 1995 - the UFCW was had reasonable goals, i.e maintenance of benefits especially, while the employers, SAFEWAY in particular, were wholly unreasonable in their goals. The result, as many of us remember, was a very successful strike against SAFEWAY in which the clerks achieved what we needed to achieve. Stores were basically under lockdown - public/customer support for the clerks was outstanding.

The Locals can use the current proposals by employers to initiate a public campaign against such grocery corporations as intend to pursue those ends. Given public rage against corporations generally at the moment [Occupy RALEY'S !!] if undertaken and pursued with intelligence it is almost a guaranteed success.

IF the Locals take advantage of this blunder by the employers...IF...
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John Briley
Post Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:49 pm

Joined: 21 Nov 2007
Posts: 704
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Bargaining Update:

Grocery Contracts Extended

Grocery contracts between UFCW Locals 5, 8 and 648 have been extended with Safeway, Save Mart and Raleys. The agreements between the unions and Safeway and Save Mart are extended to February 25, 2012. The contract between the locals and Raleys is extended through January 24, 2012.


A week of meetings has been scheduled to begin January 9 to resume talks. Subsequent meetings have been scheduled with all employers through the expiration of the respective extensions. During the extensions all wages, benefits and working conditions remain intact.

Local 5's Website Update:
http://ufcw5.org/


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the doc
Post Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:11 pm

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Posts: 121
I am retired living in Canada, but we had a strike in 93/94 and the UFCW said this is what you can do. They made it easy for A&P to do business in the other stores, but ours were closed. Well some of the people went down to the big warehouse that supplied all the stores, and they Mad picketed them. The UFCW went nuts as did A&P. It caused havoc at the warehouse for the comp. goods getting in and out. The UFCW said you can't do that, we have to be nice. After a 3 month strike we got $1.75per hr. cut in pay and lots of people f/t tossed out of work.
Now if I were you people, I would take Jan. and picket some of the bigger stores, and tell the public just what the company wants to do to retirees. I would think this action would jump start talks and really piss off the UFCW brass. They would have to talk to the comp on the sly and tell them we don't really mean what they are saying. Even a few people on
each big sales day could make a difference to the talks. It would show to company the union might be caving in but the employees aren't and you haven't even given us a contract yet.
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Inside Lurker
Post Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:06 am

Joined: 01 Nov 2009
Posts: 114
the doc wrote:

Now if I were you people, I would take Jan. and picket some of the bigger stores, and tell the public just what the company wants to do to retirees. I would think this action would jump start talks and really piss off the UFCW brass. They would have to talk to the comp on the sly and tell them we don't really mean what they are saying. Even a few people on
each big sales day could make a difference to the talks. It would show to company the union might be caving in but the employees aren't and you haven't even given us a contract yet.


Great advice doc and I couldn't agree more.

Here's a flier I picked up in one of the stores in the East Bay

Negotiations Update

UFCW members & retirees could print and get out to both customers and other UFCW members while they set up their own informational pickets in front of stores.

Take action UFCW members! If you wait around for the UFCW leaders to deliver you will lose again. It's time you get involved!
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reddog
Post Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:11 am

Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Posts: 16
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[Great advice doc and I couldn't agree more.

Here's a flier I picked up in one of the stores in the East Bay
quote]


Good comments from Doc and Inside Lurker. The Grocery Negotiations seemed stalled and going nowhere so agitating with fliers could pick up the tempo and let the UFCW and employers know the workers and retirees are fed up with the process and willing to engage in unconventional means to fight back.

[/quote]
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