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John Briley
Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:50 pm

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Labor Talks Between Ralphs, Vons, Albertsons & Workers Put on Hold

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/09/ralphs-strike-albertsons-vons-talks.html

LaTimes / September 13, 2011
By: P.J. Huffstutter

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The labor negotiations between Ralphs, Vons and Albertsons, and the seven United Food and Commercial Workers union area locals were temporarily put on hold Tuesday because the federal mediator responsible for overseeing the talks had to leave Southern California to deal with a family emergency.



Additionally, here is another story for your information and review....

Record 46.2 Million Americans Live in Poverty, Census Bureau Says

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-nat-now-census-poverty-m,0,6550372.story

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By the Census Bureau's latest measure, the poverty threshold last year was an income of $11,139 for one person and $22,314 for a family of four.


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SharynS
Post Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:55 pm

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At the same time, analysts say other factors understate the real level of poverty in the U.S.
Vague as that is, admitting the numbers lie is a wee step forward, no.
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poverty threshold last year was an income of $11,139 for one person and $22,314 for a family of four.
I'm wondering if the Bureau's poverty measure takes into account how much it costs to hold down a job. Is it possible to feed and house a family of four with $22,314 and afford to work?

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gordon
Post Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:42 am

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Strike deadline Sunday night called.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/sep/15/strike-notice-given-grocery-workers/
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unionnow
Post Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:17 pm

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Location: Gettin the Hell out of retail
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Southern-California-union-rb-4167154977.html?x=0&.v=2

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Canceling the contract does not mean grocery workers will walk out in 72 hours.

After the contract is no longer in force, the union has the option to call a strike at any time. A nullified contract also would give supermarket owners the choice to lock out union workers.


I dont trust the buggers on either side. Working with a nullified contract presents interesting possiblites for the company and nothing for the union.

Why not continue the contract and talk. Nor Cal expires in a few weeks. Are they that desperate to eliminate solidartiy in the state?

Something stinks, buyout on the horizon? Easy elimination of higher paid workers without a contract?

Damm the conpanies, they delayed until the whole state expired? What does that infer about the strength of the UFCW?

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Laboryes
Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:37 am

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Here's an interesting article I just found

Grocery workers give stores the 72-hour warning

Notice this quote!

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If there is a strike, Ralphs announced late Friday afternoon they will temporarily close all of their stores - 25 of which are in San Diego. Ralphs says it's difficult to provide a good shopping experience for customers during a strike, so initially they'll close their doors.


I believe it was Ross that mentioned that if there was a strike Ralphs planned on closing their doors and then reopening under a new name and going non union!

Can anyone out there elaborate a bit more on these rumors?

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unionnow
Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:32 am

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LY,

that sounds reasonable. I think the fix is in. Normally Nor Cal would be scrambling managers moving them into the strike zone.

All is quiet on the western front. Word from the top is a strike is (was) not expected.

They can close their doors for a day, fire the older/higher wage employees, rehire at will and force the union to resign the "new" employees as a new bargaining agent.

By the time the courts sort out the mess all the new employees would have moved on making the cards moot.

At this point it would be one set of knuckle draggers vs. the other. My money is on the companies to prevail. They are much smarter.

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unionnow
Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:52 am

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According to the union, grocery workers will begin final strike preparations after the deadline expires, massing at local union headquarters to assemble signs, stockpiling food for strikers and their families, and continuing picket training.

The notice does not mean workers will definitely walk out Sunday evening but it removed the final barrier to a strike, allowing the union to call one.
Weird stuff. they will keep working without a contract? No healthcare, no pension, no job protection and nothing else. I would withdraw from the union at that point.

Check out this quote from Vons:

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Canceling the contract extension "needlessly alarms our employees and our customers," the Vons statement said. "The notice does not mean a strike is imminent or that a strike will necessarily occur at any point. The notice simply allows the union the ability to call a strike if they choose to do so."


Double weird. It looks like the union and Safeway agree that working at will without a union contract is OK.

Normally the strike preperations are completed and you walk on the deadline.

Very, very Strange. Its as if they are in agreement as to how this will play out.

http://www.cbs8.com/story/15476706/grocery-union-issues-72-hour-warning-that-strike-is-near

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Laboryes
Post Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:22 pm

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The Albertsons chain issued a statement late Friday saying that one of the lessons it learned during the 2003-04 labor dispute is "that it doesn’t make good business sense to try to operate all our stores during a strike."


Ralphs, Albertsons would close stores if workers strike

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unionnow
Post Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:27 pm

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Albertsons released a statement Friday night indicating that it would join in on the closures, planning to shut down up to 100 locations in the event of a strike.


http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-grocery-workers-reject-contract,0,1997675.story

How many stores does albertsons have in So Cal?

They have 275 union stores in California according to a quick look I took?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/feb/19/albertsons-closing-county-stores/

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After the closures, Albertsons will have 275 stores and about 26,000 union workers, she said.


Here is an interesting tidbit from that article:

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In other measures affecting the grocery industry, Ralphs is demoting more than 150 meat cutters to clerks, slashing their pay by more than a third to $13.47 an hour, and Vons has fired 97 workers this year, including 21 last week, The Times reported. Vons is also reclassifying almost 200 full-time workers to part time, a move that could slice their wages as much as 40 per cent.


Boy are these guys and gals going to get their clocks cleaned. Words can’t describe the disaster.

It is a combination of Imperial Hubris on the part of the union leadership and a disengaged membership content on bread and circuses.

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gordon
Post Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:16 am

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That's 2009 article, Vons brought back many, that's OLD.
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John Briley
Post Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:38 pm

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Grocery Workers' Negotiations Updates - 24-hour Live Negotiations Hotlines:
(213) 286-1177(888) 710-1401
(805) 322-0017

Recorded Contract Message - (888) 508-9805
Text "FOOD" to 68398 to receive text updates

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Sept 19, 2011 - Negotiations Update 7AM

Still negotiating past midnight. Continue working until you hear from your union rep. We will update you as necessary. Union negotiators are currently still at the table trying to negotiate a fair deal.

If the employers refuse to adequately fund healthcare, we will be forced to walk out and call a strike. If there is meaningful progress, we will continue to negotatioate. DO NOT WALK off your jobs until you have received official notice from your union representtiave.

Ralphs is threatening to close its stores if grocery workers strike.They are doing this because they can’t run the stores without you, and they know customers won’t cross the picket lines. It is illegal to close the stores, fire the workers and reopen non-union.

Ralphs broke the law during the last strike and had to pay $70 million in penalties. They won’t risk that again.

So understand this: Ralphs knows that you are critical to their success and that consumers overwhelmingly support you. They simply cannot operate their stores in a strike or lockout.

We will continue to update this site as develops arise. Please contact your Union Representative if you have quesitons.

Alternate Places to Shop

Click here for 72 hours FAQ's

Click here to view the 72 hours FAQ's as PDF in English and Spanish



UFCW Local 770's Website:
http://ufcw770.org/updates

Operator's See Store Closures If Struck

http://supermarketnews.com/retail_financial/closures_strike_0919/
SuperMarket News / September 19, 2011
By: Elliot Zwiebach

Grocery Negotiations Deadline Passes
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-california-grocery-store-20110919,0,4464622.story?page=1
LaTimes / September 19, 2011
By: P.J. Huffstutter

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Today, Ralphs, Vons and Albertsons have fewer stores in Southern California, and fewer employees. Albertsons has closed 67 locations since the 2003-04 strike and worker lockout. Ralphs has closed 48 stores, and Vons and Pavilions are down 47.



Grocery, Union Talks Continue This Morning
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/workers-317748-stores-ralphs.html
The Orange County Register / September 19, 2011

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Health insurance benefits are a major point of contention, with the company offering an insurance package that union officials say would run out of money in 16 months. Under the most recent offer, workers would pay about $36 per month for individual health insurance, or $92 per month for family coverage, but the company contribution to health care costs has not been announced. Negotiators are also reported to be far apart on pay rates.

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Laboryes
Post Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:28 pm

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John Briley wrote:


Sept 19, 2011 - Negotiations Update 7AM

Still negotiating past midnight. Continue working until you hear from your union rep. We will update you as necessary. Union negotiators are currently still at the table trying to negotiate a fair deal.


Our UFCW negotiators hard at work....



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unionnow
Post Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 3:49 pm

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Wow, thoses are great articles. That is a massive amount of market share lost by the unionized companies.

How can non union retailers staff their stores up and pay far less? I have checked out some of their stores in Nor Cal.

They are clean and well staffed. Target has 2 dollar boxes of cereal every day. Their frozen is cheaper.

We have some latino chains up here doing a dynamite job. They are buying old union stores that have closed and turned them into gold mines.

The lots were never near so full when these stores were union.

Now its up to 350 stores closing:

http://economy.ocregister.com/2011/09/16/ralphs-to-close-250-socal-stores-if-union-strikes/69280/

Here is a pretty good write up on what is at risk working without a contract:

http://www.workrightspress.com/strikesch.htm

What a bad deal for both sides.

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Laboryes
Post Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:06 pm

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Grocery union pulls an all-nighter with supermarket negotiators

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Once the contract is no longer in effect, grocery workers can strike at any time.


Now here's a thought UFCW! You no longer have a contract so why not tell your members to show up to work, clock in, then sit down and refuse to work!

A good old fashioned Sit Down Strike would get corporates attention, no?

What could be better? Members still on the clock getting paid while managers franticly run around the stores figuring out what to do!

Labor was built on sit down strikes! For gawd sakes UFCW do something that remotely resembles a labor union! These UFCW members have kept you in gated communities & Cadillac’s for years the least you can do is act like a real union for a brief moment and get these members something they can live with!!!!

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John Briley
Post Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:28 pm

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Grocery union officials and negotiators for Ralphs, Vons and Albertsons have reached a tentative deal on a labor contract, a move that averts a strike that would have had more than 54,000 workers across Southern California walking off the job.



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Grocery Strike Averted With Ralphs, Vons & Albertson's

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/09/grocery-strike-averted-as-labor-contract-deal-reached-with-ralphs-vons-and-albertsons.html

LaTimes / September 19, 2011 (12:07 p.m)
By: P.J. Huffstutter



UFCW Local 1167's Website Update.....
http://www.ufcw1167.org/negotiation/update_9_19_11.html

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UFCW Negotiators Reach Tentative Agreement With Albertsons, Ralphs and Vons

LOS ANGELES, CALIF. (Sept. 19, 2011) — Negotiators representing 62,000 grocery workers in Southern California have reached a tentative contract agreement with representatives of the Albertsons, Ralphs and Vons supermarket chains.

Negotiations began in February to compose a collective bargaining agreement that would replace the workers' previous contract, which expired in March.

The workers will be asked to ratify the agreement, which includes protections of health care and pension benefits throughout the life of the contract.

Specifics on the new deal will be released to the workers preceding ratification votes at meetings of the United Food and Commercial Workers throughout the region.

"Thanks to the unity of our members, we were successful in bargaining an agreement that grocery workers can be proud of," the union negotiators said in a statement.

"We have attained our most important goal, which was continuing to provide comprehensive health care to the members and their families.

"The grocery workers of Southern California stood together, strong and united, throughout this long and difficult process. They refused to accept anything less than a contract that protects their wages, benefits and working conditions. We are proud of them.

"We are also grateful to Scot Beckenbaugh, the mediator from the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, and to all of our loyal customers who pledged their support for the workers."

Thank you for your Support !

The FMCS is the agency of United States Government that handles arbitration and mediation of labor disputes and contract negotiations.
www.fmcs.org


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