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wm pasz
Post Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:05 pm

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A woman who has taken a stand against the the credit card empire is the subject of this article from Huffington Post

This is an example of the kind of walking away from the system that can start a real rebellion. Gotta luv this line -

"Tea parties and letters to representatives hasn't done squat," she said. "We need to form a cyber revolution."

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atuuschaaw
Post Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:36 pm

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Oh Yes! I'll be sharing Ann's story for sure! I love this!! You can bet...now that her story hit HP, Ann will be all over the web faster than you can say...uh..well...never mind, she's there already! Mr. Green

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atuuschaaw
Post Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:35 am

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A follow up on the Ann Minch story from Richard Zombeck.

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As Minch says, "Tea parties and letters to representatives hasn't done squat. We need to form a cyber revolution."

Thank you Ann Minch for your courage and conviction. Thank you for giving me back some hope. At least for today.


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Rose Knows
Post Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:29 pm

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The way to beat the banksters and corperations in this game is to demand real things for your labor and paper money.
Demand gold, silver, or even food for labor.
Demand a gold standard system of payment.
The stock market is going up because the dollar is going down. The stock market will pay off with inflated dollars that will have less purchacing powrer. As the buying power of paper money goes down the cost of food,gold,and silver will go up.
The banksters and corperations know this and will do everything they can to keep the current system of paper payment for your work in place.
The system of payment is key to changing your economic future.

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Rose Knows
Post Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:34 pm

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the credit card companies as well as who you work for and for that matter the country you live in are so deep in debt that they are prevented from allowing intrest rates to rise. The powers that be do this by buying there own bonds. It is called monitizing the debt. This is a highly inflationary practice. Of a bigger concern this practice will destroy our pensions and insurance programs of all kinds.
The debt problem in Europe has been postponed by creating money out of thin air. Printing money in order to prevent intrest rates from rising because your debt load is already too great is a precursor to hyperinflation.
The problems in Europe WILL SPREAD to your back yard.
AS working people we must demand real things for our labor.
Inflation is now contained because of outright fraud in the banking system. It is a practice called naked shorting in the futuers market. These banks will be exposed just as Goldmen Sacs is now being exposed. Tell your Union Reps to stand strong when it counts such as the upcoming G-20 meeting in Toronto.

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Scott Schroeder
Post Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:35 pm

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Thought! I posted a link to the article and Ann's video on my facebook page and asked everyone to stand in solidarity with Ann by doing the same.

Any other ideas how we can get Ann's message out in overwhelming numbers?

FUCK YOU BANK OF AMERICA!

Go Ann!

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Scott Schroeder
Post Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 3:54 pm

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Follow up on Ann's fight.

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Two weeks ago, Ann Minch of Red Bluff, Calif. announced in a YouTube video that she'd launched a one-woman "Debtors' Revolt" and would refuse to pay off her credit card balance after an unfair interest-rate hike. Now, after her video made a huge splash, Bank of America has agreed to reduce her rate.


Follow up here

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Scott Schroeder
Post Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:22 am

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Doh!

I'm a little Embarassed here. I thought this was new news but as I researched Ann's story a little more I see this all happened in Fall of '09.

Alright, alright! So I'm a little slow on the uptake. Must be a night crew thing. After 31 years of the grave yard shift and minimal sleep sometimes us grave yard'ers tend to walk around in half comas sometimes.

Still I think it's a worthwhile thread to follow. Anyone know what's going with Ann's revolt as of today?

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Rose Knows
Post Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:00 am

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I am looking foward to Ann's ideas on a revolt of the unconstitutional income tax in Amercia. Check out Arron Russo's movie a few years ago.I think it was called Freedom to Fachism, or something along those lines.
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Rose Knows
Post Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:27 pm

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Mark this date on your calender.
I am told by my broker that at 12:01 May 19 Germandy is set to outlaw naked short selling.
This may be the beginning of what will go down in history as the great inflation.
This possabilty was brought to the attention of the UFCW Local 1000A Toronto divisional executive by way of "don't call me Johnny". Instead of taking heed to such a message and alert the membership in how to protect yourself in such an event as hyperinflation. CISS was called to have the message squashed. A real working class hero this "Johnny" and his fellow 1000A executive.

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Rose Knows
Post Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:59 pm

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Some in local 1000A have called me an alarmest.
You be the judge!
Go to www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb1n1x0Oqdw
Type in meltup
Or just googel meltup it will take you there.
Now ask yourself if cavemen like "Johnny" and the local 1000A executive have the intelect and skills to protect the membership during these interesting times.
I THINK NOT.

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SharynS
Post Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:22 am

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...local 1000A executive have the intelect and skills to protect the membership..
Whoa that's a lot of pressure for cavemen. I think the majority of members would be happy if their union organization just quit trying to steal what little working people have left.

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Rose Knows
Post Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 3:14 am

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That is the sad truth.
I honestly belive they have the skill and abilty to do right by the membership. But unfortunately this would interfear with advanceing there oun little kingdoms they have ceated for themselves at the expense of the membership. They are no-better than the currupt politacians that are in bed with the wall street bankers. always looking the wrong way to better serve there corprate masters who protect them against a hostile membership. If a member becomes to outspoken they see to it that that member is discredited and if they can not do that they try to buy off the member with a cushey job in the union office as long as he or she shuts up. Failing this they can always rely on there croney friends in management to see to it that this outspoken member gets express service to the unemployment line when the least little incident provides the opportunity.
The whole 1000A union office is filled with relatives, girlfriends, and sellout mouthpiece members who once carried a solid trade unionist message. YES YOU ARE ABSOUITY RIGHE. THE 1000A EXECUTIVE DO HAVE THE ABILITY AND SKILL.
IF ONLY THEY WOULD USE IT FOR THE GOOD OF THE MEMBERSHIP.

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doug slaydon
Post Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:49 pm

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The trap is the consumerism, instead of defining our own way of life by who we are not what we have, less is more.

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doug slaydon
Post Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:50 pm

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doug slaydon wrote:
Michel de Montaigne, 1580 "...what can be more strange than to see a people obliged to obey laws they never understood: bound in all their domestic affairs, as marriages, donations, wills, sales, and purchases, to rules they cannot possibly know, being neither written nor published in their own language, and of which they are of necessity to purchase both the interpretation and the use?".
[/quote]I took this lengthy quote out of context but it struck me because I have felt and experienced that laws and transactions too complicated to understand are at the core dishonest and manipulative. This includes credit card applications, car loans, home loans. Who can read all that fine shit. Also union contracts too lengthy and complicated with hidden agreements and precedents. If it is longer than a page or two it is wrong. Black and white. A credit application should not read like calculus and a union contract should not require a lawyer to interpret.

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