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SharynS
Post Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:30 pm

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This year, 2008 marks the 40th anniversary of Vancouver-born Canadian Olympic athlete, Dick Findlay's participation in the 1968 Olympic Games held in Mexico City.

As well, this year is also distinguished by the 20th anniversary of Mr. Findlay's shameful firing by Vancouver's Molson Brewery for which he continues to seek redress.

Findlay, a former three-time Canadian boxing champion has recently issued an Open Letter to the BC NDP's Labour Critic, Chuck Puchmayr. Mr. Findlay has alleged that Mr. Puchmayr conspired with other members of the Brewery, Winery & Distillery Workers' Union Local 300, playing an instrumental role in the denial to Dick Findlay a fair settlement of his long-standing grievance with Molson.

With no reply forthcoming from Chuck Puchmayr, Mr. Findlay has consented to allow his letter to the widest of distribution.

An Open Letter to Chuck Puchmayr, MLA for New Westminster and Labour Critic for the NDP - from Former Canadian Olympic Athlete Dick Findlay

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SharynS
Post Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:44 pm

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I hate to say this Dick but, could it be that the betrayal and disregard for justice on your behalf 20 yrs ago, and it's ultimate disclosure, may have provided chuck puckface with the very credentials needed and played a pivotal role in his gaining position as ndp labour critic?

Sad friggin' day puchmayr, when union representatives turn sour for a buck and turn over for two.

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The Third Element
Post Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:50 pm

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I have two unscratchable itches:

Homelessness - I live in Vancouver and have pretty much run out of clothes, spare blankets, warm work gloves, toques and stuff like that - I buy them meals, warm drinks, and I talk to them and try to help and I have started buying new warm work gloves that I keep in my car for when I see them. But, there seems to be no end in sight... that's *one*, and this is not the forum for that.

The second is less pervasive and certainly garners less social "give-a-shit" but I find myself interacting with people too often that have not found justice in Canada's labour system.

Dick Findlay: detailed above.

Chris Budgell: detailed elsewhere on this site.

Bernardus Speckling
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This appeal stems from a long running dispute between the self-represented Applicant, Mr. Bernardus Speckling, and his union and the manner in which the British Columbia Labour Relations Board dealt with his complaints, which were all dismissed. He went before the B.C. Labour Relations Board to pursue his complaints against the union and his former employer and then filed the present civil action in June 2005 and sought tort remedies for the alleged misconduct of the Labour Relations Board and its members in handling his case. Mr. Speckling argued that the Board wrongfully dismissed the proceedings, failed to respect principles of procedural fairness and also showed bias throughout the decision making process. Mr. Speckling argued that because the Labour Relations Board was set up by the government to administer a statute created by government it cannot be anything but a manifestation of government, and is therefore vicariously liable for alleged torts.


How many more? Each of these cases the union member has been ostracized by his union and abandoned. All these voices of support for organized labour but what has it gotten people who supported them for their entire lives?

I get so angry reading this sort of stuff and trying to find things to do to support their fight, but when your enemy is your employer and your union, and the labour boards... what the hell can you do...?

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SharynS
Post Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:03 am

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...when your enemy is your employer and your union, and the labour boards...
I'm thinking, if only the corruption was that isolated.

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The Third Element
Post Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:42 am

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But Siggy.. I'm not talking about the Corporatist that are corrupting the planet or the lack of acceptance by the power brokers that the Socialist agenda is the secret answer.

These fucking people have NO ONE they can turn to. Unions are supposed to be their representatives... WTF?!?! Why are so many unions turning to suing their members and stealing their money and lying to their faces about it.

These people need money - they need representation... wait.. they had that... now what?

Here: ROKOLJ and COMMUNICATIONS, ENERGY AND PAPERWORKERS UNION OF CANADA, LOCAL 525-G - BCLRB No. B4/2008

This was a month ago, buddy did not pay his fines the union levied for his not attending union meetings. He became a member in bad standing, so the union got him fired... who's on whose side?

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:58 am

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But 3E, neither am I and ftr, unions don't steal, people do. Unions don't sue members, machineheads make that decision and use member money (please see above).

Again - why is it that when union leaders go bad the union/collective concept takes the shit-kicking but when corporate pigs go bad, it's on their personal head and the corporate concept comes out no worse for wear.

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:08 pm

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On the second para Siggy, when Corporate's go bad, the media is all over it. Accounting audits turn up crazy shit that is in the press in a heartbeat - accountability.

When Union leaders or the executive go bad the smoke bomb goes off and "poof" it slides under the nearest available carpet.

A better question would be: Why is it that when the union leader, or executive goes bad the "collective of like minded employees" do Sweet F all? I think that is why the organized labour model fails, because by and large people do not care enough to get involved. Union dues are, to them, an unavoidable effect spawned be the requirement to have a job. They don't want to "vote" and "all that stuff", they just want their job.

Sorry to include you with me in this "cheek by jowl" analogy but "We" (activist types) all rush around holding up facts and stirring reaction in a pissant attempt at bringing these people off the sidelines and out of the stands to get involved. They don't give a rat's ass about their Union, and as I started saying above, this is why Unions are sliding out of favour. These people don't see the reason for them being there at all. Add to that corruption and misuse of dues, and being forced to be part of it to have a job and for the pro-union types you're pushing a rope.

Oh, I have a response to "Guns don't kill people. people kill people". True, but guns sure facilitate the process, in the same way Unions facilitate the corruption.

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On the second para Siggy, when Corporate's go bad, the media is all over it. Accounting audits turn up crazy shit that is in the press in a heartbeat - accountability.
And one man takes tha fall. Thanks to corporate owned media the corportate institution takes no hit.
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When Union leaders or the executive go bad the smoke bomb goes off and "poof" it slides under the nearest available carpet.
Begs the question; where's corporate media then? It's not like the news isn't available or there aren't working people screaming?
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"collective of like minded employees" do Sweet F all? I think that is why the organized labour model fails, because by and large people do not care enough to get involved.
To a degree perhaps but you can't discount that the system is/has been/and is currently being constructed to defeat people and favour corporate agenda. When the system is owned by corporate monies who's interest do you suppose it's going to serve and they're certainly not above manipulating the rule of law.
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in the same way Unions facilitate the corruption
unions don't facilitate corruption - inadequate labour law, processes and lack of accountibility facilitate corruption. Haven't we been over that already. Smile

Obviously the big difference in media coverage of equally criminal behavior is who the victims are - investors v. working people? We all know who owns the media (well used to own it anyway). Things are changing and please don't confuse the corruptible biz model with real collective might. Hell hath no fury like scorned citizens.

You might want to check it out 3E, it's not just union members losing ground to the corporate juggernaut. If anyone offers you a free mint, just say no!

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BZelley
Post Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:12 pm

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I remember Findlay's boxing days in the mid-Sixties. Also, following
his active boxing competition, Dick became a ring official with
the British Columbia Boxing Association. in the Seventies.

Sorry to hear about his problems since 1988.
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Post Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:16 pm

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As there been any improvements in the issue Question
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